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euterpe
05-03-2012, 08:23 PM
So she said she doesn't plan to compete at 2013 worlds but will train 'intensely' this summer. My guess is no matter what we won't see her on the GP but I'll pray for a last minute decision to go to nationals and maybe we'll get lucky.

If I'm her I'm not just reviewing ISU eligibility rules, but I'm also negotiating terms to be selected to the Team Event. I assume this is her focus. Canada will likely only have one lady at Sochi and it will be the national champion, which may or may not be her. If I'm her I'd want some sort of assurance that I get the 2nd ladies spot in the team event so as not to waste my comeback. Something like "if I finish top 3 at nationals and score at least 150 points in a comp prior to Olympics you'll put me on".
That's the kind of conversation I expect will happen.

I don't see Rochette having any problem getting the lone spot for 2014. Phaneuf and Lacoste don't have the technical chops, and Osmond has neither senior experience nor outstanding presentation skills.

I don't understand training intensively this summer and then not coming back to competition in 2012-2013. Unfortunately, I think the reason why she won't return for 2013 Worlds is that it conflicts with the SOI tour.

But if SOI is her priority, that means she won't return to competition until the start of the 2013-2014 season. That means another summer of intensive training and then competing at the elite level after she hasn't done so for more than three years. NOT the best scenario for success IMO.

Vash01
05-03-2012, 11:25 PM
I was never crazy about Joannie, but her return (assuming the year before the Olympics) could secure 3 spots for Canadian ladies in the 2014 Olympics. That will be good for their future.

Jammers
05-03-2012, 11:48 PM
3 spots? And who will be the other Canadian to make the top 10? That is if Joannie even makes the podium.

bardtoob
05-04-2012, 12:38 AM
So is anyone thinking the "she's had her turn, give the younger ones a chance?"

Well, if so, that someone probably does not think skating is a sport, but more a pageant.

Proustable
05-04-2012, 12:47 AM
3 spots? And who will be the other Canadian to make the top 10? That is if Joannie even makes the podium.

Canada has one lady. Should that lady place second or first at the 2013 Worlds, Canada would get three spots. If she gets 3rd-10th, two spots. 11th or worse, one.

DaiKozOda
05-04-2012, 12:49 AM
In Vancouver there was so much drama going on that I believe Rochette deserves to have an olympic moment of pure joy! Off course the result she may achieve is important for Canada but wouldn't it be lovely to see Rochette in Sochi focused on the competition and also having a good time?

essence_of_soy
05-04-2012, 12:49 AM
At her best had she stayed in competition, Rochette could have won Worlds in 2010, 2011 and this year against the current crop.

Joannie has such as masterful, subtle blend of presentation and technique, I would love to see her come back.

Lacey
05-04-2012, 01:06 AM
Wow, good for her for even contemplating this.

Mevrouw
05-04-2012, 02:17 AM
Kaetlyn Osmond is likely to be the 2nd lady this year.

Skate Talker
05-04-2012, 06:21 AM
There is no second lady this year. Only 1 spot for 2013 Worlds

Mevrouw
05-04-2012, 12:39 PM
I didn't mean for Worlds, I meant at nationals.

carriecmu0503
05-04-2012, 01:24 PM
So she said she doesn't plan to compete at 2013 worlds but will train 'intensely' this summer. My guess is no matter what we won't see her on the GP but I'll pray for a last minute decision to go to nationals and maybe we'll get lucky.

If I'm her I'm not just reviewing ISU eligibility rules, but I'm also negotiating terms to be selected to the Team Event. I assume this is her focus. Canada will likely only have one lady at Sochi and it will be the national champion, which may or may not be her. If I'm her I'd want some sort of assurance that I get the 2nd ladies spot in the team event so as not to waste my comeback. Something like "if I finish top 3 at nationals and score at least 150 points in a comp prior to Olympics you'll put me on".
That's the kind of conversation I expect will happen.

There is ONE spot for ladies in the team event. One man, one woman, one pair, one dance team. If she does not qualify to the Canadian team (likely to only be on spot, unless next year's lady does well and qualifies two spots at next year's worlds), she cannot be a part of the team. Team members must be already qualified to compete in their individual event to be a part of the team.

arakwafan2006
05-04-2012, 04:01 PM
The only thing that I have a slight issue with is that Joannie will be waiting until the last minute to begin competing again at a super high level. I think that philosophy is what costed Sasha a spot on the 2010 olympic team. Granted Sasha waited until nationals to compete Joannie might want to reconsider. Her talent and skill set are not in question but rather her nerves in big The only thing that I have a slight issue with is that Joannie will be waiting until the last minute to begin competing again at a super high level. I think that philosophy is what cost Sasha a spot on the 2010 Olympic team. Granted Sasha waited until nationals to compete Joannie might want to reconsider. Her talent and skill set are not in question but rather her nerves in big events. With the exception of G&G, there are not too many ex Olympic medalists who have toured for 3 years and came back to the top of their game. Also, Joannie medaled in Vancouver but was not without fault. We shall see though

Either way i would like to see her back another year but i think she owes it to herself not to wait until the Olympic season to enter competition again.
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maharbabackward
05-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Joannie has competed in the Japan Open every year since the Olympics. She has placed at or near the top at all times. She didn't have her lutz or triple-triple sequence but I don't think both are far from her arsenal as they were always fairly consistent. I've always thought it was unfortunate that Joannie stepped out of the competitive limelight because the new rules (the triple toe half loop triple salchow counting as a three jump combination) really work for her. Plus, look at the technical deficiencies of Kostner and Asada now and how she has the same tech content as Ando but IMO much better PCS, and she really could have been world champ the last two worlds. Canada's chance at gold in the team competition is bleak, unless she is on it. With her on it we have two gold medal potentials (V&M, Chan), Joannie (not definite medalist even if she regains her tech d/t upcoming Russians, but potential) and a solid top five-ten pairs team.

blue_idealist
05-04-2012, 05:32 PM
The only thing that I have a slight issue with is that Joannie will be waiting until the last minute to begin competing again at a super high level. I think that philosophy is what costed Sasha a spot on the 2010 olympic team. Granted Sasha waited until nationals to compete Joannie might want to reconsider. Her talent and skill set are not in question but rather her nerves in big The only thing that I have a slight issue with is that Joannie will be waiting until the last minute to begin competing again at a super high level. I think that philosophy is what cost Sasha a spot on the 2010 Olympic team. Granted Sasha waited until nationals to compete Joannie might want to reconsider. Her talent and skill set are not in question but rather her nerves in big events. With the exception of G&G, there are not too many ex Olympic medalists who have toured for 3 years and came back to the top of their game. Also, Joannie medaled in Vancouver but was not without fault. We shall see though

Either way i would like to see her back another year but i think she owes it to herself not to wait until the Olympic season to enter competition again.
events.

If nothing else, I think she should at least do the GP in Fall 2013, not start at Nationals 2014 hoping to qualify for the Olympics. I know that the current Canadian ladies aren't so hot but it almost seems unfair to them for her to 'waltz' in after being out of competition and grab the spot, if there is still only one spot (although I know Yu-Na has bumped Min-Jeong Kwak like this before).