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Sylvia
04-30-2012, 01:16 PM
The 2009-10 season ranking points have been removed and 2010-11 season points reduced to 70% as of today (April 29, 2012) ahead of the new season:

Men (http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsmen.htm)

Ladies (http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsladies.htm)

Pairs (http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wspairs.htm)

Ice Dance (http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsdance.htm)

(Thanks to npavel for mentioning it in the "2012-13 Grand Prix Pre-announcement Thread.")

Iceman
04-30-2012, 04:38 PM
There must be a glitch in the computer program that does this or erroneous information was input ;)

julieann
04-30-2012, 05:53 PM
Those are interesting placements.

It proves Senior Bs prove to be great point getters for those who chose to go and costly for those who choose to stay home.

Ziggy
04-30-2012, 07:01 PM
Those are interesting placements.

It proves Senior Bs prove to be great point getters for those who chose to go and costly for those who choose to stay home.

Hopefully the two proposed US international competitions go ahead.

mag
04-30-2012, 07:10 PM
I'm hoping someone can explain the first column to me. How did Cynthia Phaneuf get 402 points in the 2011/2012 season if she didn't go to Worlds?

Sylvia
04-30-2012, 07:11 PM
It proves Senior Bs prove to be great point getters for those who chose to go and costly for those who choose to stay home.
In the U.S., skaters/teams are selected to go by USFS. If they could choose to go, I'm sure more would!


Hopefully the two proposed US international competitions go ahead.
Reportedly there were at least 3 bids to host but only one Senior B was planned orginally/is happening: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83213


I'm hoping someone can explain the first column to me. How did Cynthia Phaneuf get 402 points in the 2011/2012 season if she didn't go to Worlds?
Four Continents is an ISU Championship (like Worlds, Europeans and Junior Worlds). If a skater competed in more than one ISU Championship during the same season, the one that gained the highest points is counted.

mag
04-30-2012, 07:16 PM
Thanks Silvia! The way the title is written "ISU World Championships (or Olympic Winter Games)" is a bit misleading. I guess they mean ISU Championships.

julieann
04-30-2012, 07:37 PM
In the U.S., skaters/teams are selected to go by USFS. If they could choose to go, I'm sure more would!

It's not even just US skaters.

If you look at pairs skaters like H/W, B/H and V/VC, they take advantage of almost every competition but skaters like S/K and K/S don't and they really dropped in the rankings (now I'm sure that injuries played a big part in them not going or they went to local competitions instead)

I hope the US and/or Canada does get some competitions here it would really be great for the skaters.

Ziggy
04-30-2012, 07:53 PM
In the U.S., skaters/teams are selected to go by USFS. If they could choose to go, I'm sure more would!

This is what I don't understand at all.

Why don't USFS and Skate Canada follow this strategy:

a) assign some international competition spots to team envelope skaters, as much as the budget allows (which is what they do already)

b) once step a) is completed, open all other spots to any skaters who can afford to pay their own expenses

As long as b) is always done after a), nobody loses and some skaters (as well as USFS), only gain.

I am really puzzled to why this isn't happening already.

gingercat
04-30-2012, 08:35 PM
This is what I don't understand at all.

Why don't USFS and Skate Canada follow this strategy:

a) assign some international competition spots to team envelope skaters, as much as the budget allows (which is what they do already)

b) once step a) is completed, open all other spots to any skaters who can afford to pay their own expenses

As long as b) is always done after a), nobody loses and some skaters (as well as USFS), only gain.

I am really puzzled to why this isn't happening already.

I agree, especially at the Novice and Junior level. The skaters get their first taste of international experience only when it counts (Junior Grand Prix) It would make perfect sense to allow them the opportunity to go to international events at an earlier stage in their competitive career. Triglava, Gardenia... Should be at their limits with entries!! Experience is the best teacher

eleonorad
04-30-2012, 08:36 PM
Italy has one lady in #1 and another one in #16. It's amazing how high they are placed with so little we invest in this sport.

Sylvia
04-30-2012, 09:01 PM
Just posted in the 2011-12 Kiss and Cry forum: List of all 2011-12 Senior B competitions included in ISU World Standings rankings+Results links (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83511)

Garden Kitty
04-30-2012, 10:07 PM
Wow, I can't believe I'm not even ranked at all. I guess that lack of ability to skate is really hurting me, or at least my ranking. ;)

barbk
05-01-2012, 02:21 AM
So WTT doesn't count into the rankings at all? It would seem that the individual placements ought to count at least as much as a Senior B.

jlai
05-01-2012, 02:42 AM
Wow, I can't believe I'm not even ranked at all. I guess that lack of ability to skate is really hurting me, or at least my ranking. ;)

We need to create some Senior C events where everyone's scores count towards season's best. :cool: :D