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Jeschke
09-08-2012, 09:09 PM
Shelepen's SP in Minsk , 1st in SP, step out in 3Lz-3t and iffy loop
anyone know the music ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDSYKFJpjSA&feature=plcp

thanks for posting this.
i really like polina s. and hope she can deliver this season when it counts.
unfortunately her pcs werenīt very high again, but letīs see how that will be at the grand prixs.

i really loved her last years sp, not sure about the new one. but itīs very early.

rfisher
09-08-2012, 09:10 PM
I know, that's not what I meant. I wanted to say that IF everyone was age eligible, Leonova would have made the team both times and Lisa wouldn't. Leonova wasn't lucky to be on the team because everyone else was young, she actually beat most of the young skaters at Russian nationals. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

OK. I think Morosov has to be credited with some of her success last season. She seemed to have a renewed desire to win which served her well. I know it's blasphemous to credit him with anything, but I do think he has been good for her. I'm not saying she had elegant programs, but she certainly had programs that scored well and she seemed happy with his coaching.

I have my favorites, but find something to like about all the Russian ladies, be it grace, technical ability or sheer determination.

love_skate2011
09-08-2012, 09:15 PM
thanks for posting this.
i really like polina s. and hope she can deliver this season when it counts.
unfortunately her pcs werenīt very high again, but letīs see how that will be at the grand prixs.

i really loved her last years sp, not sure about the new one. but itīs very early.

her PCS were indeed low, I saw the protocol,
she scored a total of only 51.+ something on this

I don't know why she is always scored low especially her SP :wall:
then as someone said here, she has to " mountain climb " at the LP for technical merits not counting her useless PCS scores.

I don't expect much from her at Skate Canada but I think Shlepen has improved and passed puberty and kept all her jumps, she just needs a physiologist to control her SP phobias, lol

VarBar
09-08-2012, 09:17 PM
Shelepen's SP in Minsk , 1st in SP, step out in 3Lz-3t
anyone know the music ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDSYKFJpjSA&feature=plcp

It's a French song named Les Feuilles mortes (Dead Leaves or Autumn Leaves) and I think this was the original singer of the piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWfsp8kwJto

Jeschke
09-08-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't know why she is always scored low especially her SP :wall:


thanks iīm not the only one with that opinion :D

donīt know why either, donīt talk about 27,28 in pcs, but 24, 25.
donīt know, why she always stays around 22points.

as said, she passed puberty, hope she will get stronger an stroner i really enjoy her skating

Domshabfan
09-08-2012, 10:22 PM
thanks iīm not the only one with that opinion :D

donīt know why either, donīt talk about 27,28 in pcs, but 24, 25.
donīt know, why she always stays around 22points.

as said, she passed puberty, hope she will get stronger an stroner i really enjoy her skating


She has a tendency to mess up the SP, so her PCS usually suffers from that. On top of that, let's face it she usually skates through the music (so does Lipnitskaya). I am glad that she skated well here, she looked to be listening to the music while skating, and this was lovely to see. So, overall I think her decision to leave her former coach and join Morosov group was a great one. I hope she will do well this year.

alchemy void
09-09-2012, 12:10 AM
Perhaps it was just the video angle but she looked deathly slow. That will definitely negatively effect PCS. I hope she has a good season; I like her. This program is very meh to me, but at least her arms aren't flopping around all over the place.

Sedge
09-09-2012, 01:33 AM
OK. I think Morosov has to be credited with some of her success last season. She seemed to have a renewed desire to win which served her well. I know it's blasphemous to credit him with anything, but I do think he has been good for her.

I don't know how Leonova will fare this year.
Morozov does have a positive affect on the results of his singles skaters in the first season they are with him and generally the 2nd season is a disappointment as the novelty wears off.( Oda, Rippon, Amodio, Takahashi.The pattern differed with Ando and Ilinykh..but circumstances with those 2 were a bit different)
I guess that 2014 in Russia may keep his interest in Leonova strong.

julieann
09-09-2012, 03:47 AM
Didn't the Russian pairs have their test skates this week?

DORISPULASKI
09-09-2012, 03:54 AM
Shelepen-

Autumn Leaves by Roger Williams

Very literal minded costuming, I must say

love_skate2011
09-09-2012, 04:21 AM
She has a tendency to mess up the SP, so her PCS usually suffers from that. On top of that, let's face it she usually skates through the music (so does Lipnitskaya). I am glad that she skated well here, she looked to be listening to the music while skating, and this was lovely to see. So, overall I think her decision to leave her former coach and join Morosov group was a great one. I hope she will do well this year.

she did ? :confused:
I thought she is with Svetlana Sokolovskaya Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polina_Shelepen

Vash01
09-09-2012, 07:08 AM
her PCS were indeed low, I saw the protocol,
she scored a total of only 51.+ something on this

I don't know why she is always scored low especially her SP :wall:
then as someone said here, she has to " mountain climb " at the LP for technical merits not counting her useless PCS scores.

I don't expect much from her at Skate Canada but I think Shlepen has improved and passed puberty and kept all her jumps, she just needs a physiologist to control her SP phobias, lol

May be I am being too hard on her- it's only the beginning of the season- but she seemed slow in the footwork section, and in some of her spins. The sit spin was not low enough, and I did not feel any connection to the music.

That does not mean she won't do much better in Feb/March.

love_skate2011
09-09-2012, 07:37 AM
May be I am being too hard on her- it's only the beginning of the season- but she seemed slow in the footwork section, and in some of her spins. The sit spin was not low enough, and I did not feel any connection to the music.

That does not mean she won't do much better in Feb/March.

yeah slow footwork especially after the middle of the program
though I think her spins have improved form last seasons

Jeschke
09-09-2012, 09:34 AM
Morozov does have a positive affect on the results of his singles skaters in the first season they are with him and generally the 2nd season is a disappointment as the novelty wears off.( Oda, Rippon, Amodio, Takahashi.The pattern differed with Ando and Ilinykh..but circumstances with those 2 were a bit different)


to be honest, andos second year under him was very unpleasant, too.

the samson&delilah-short (which i actually liked) was thrown away, after she didnīt have best scores at grand prix and most of us will remember her carmen-ending in gothenburg ath worlds. her only succesful performance was at nationals this season.

wisely, they changed the awful giselle-program the year after, this could have been the complete knockout for her. but however, he got her strong again she had some really great programs imo (memoirs of a geisha sp, cleopatra fs, mission-sp).

tkrm7778
09-09-2012, 12:48 PM
BTW Shelepen's SP is choreographed by Tarasova. And yes, she's definetely in Sokolovskaya's group now, because Vodorezova refused to take her (she wants to focus on Adelina).