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Moka-Ananas
09-06-2012, 06:04 PM
speaking of test skates this girl won the competition Adelina had tried her new programs at Moscow Championships:

her name is Julia Lee and is coached by Eteri Tutberidze
so after Evgenia Medvedeva we will have Julia Lee ?

I think she has great potential that opening 2A-3T was really nice :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZaTeaWRjI&feature=plcp

According to the site of the Moscow skating federation she was born in June 1999. So that would make her basically eligible for JGP, non?

Macassar88
09-06-2012, 06:12 PM
Maybe I should wait for the GP before seeing Adelina's free so as to hopefully get a better first impression. :yikes: That's the danger of summer comps after all...

Sometimes the first impression is the right one though - like with Bobrova and Soloviev's Walpugis Night...

kwanfan1818
09-06-2012, 06:22 PM
I really liked B/S's Walpugisnacht program when it debuted: I thought it had a lot of potential. She was badly costumed -- too voluminous and heavy -- and they never performed it with sweep and ease. I expected progress rather than regression.

Sotnikova will be skating at Skate America, and there will be no dearth of first-hand observations.

love_skate2011
09-06-2012, 06:22 PM
According to the site of the Moscow skating federation she was born in June 1999. So that would make her basically eligible for JGP, non?

That would make her 13 years old but I don't think she is listed on any JGP
maybe she can replace one of the lists ? I like her speed but she needs to work on those rippon lutz and that fluke loop maybe next season with more expereince It might be hard though she will compete with Medvedeva, Ogoreltseva and Sahanovich next year.

rfisher
09-06-2012, 06:22 PM
I don't think we are worried that she won't medal because of her music. I think we are worried that we will have to listen to it again and again...

:lol: I'll probably love it. I love jazz, Xtina and blues. I absolutely love Blues for Klook and was thrilled when Dai skated to it last year. Music is subjective. Some fans will hate whatever a skater picks, so they should just pick whatever they want and get on with it.

tkrm7778
09-06-2012, 07:14 PM
Julia Lee landed rippon–lutz in the short (3Lz+2T) easily, so she lands it, albeit not consistently yet. Internal sources say she also lands a similar flip with both hands up in training. Her short programm was really a strong perfomance (much better, than LP), however there's no video :(

kwanatic
09-06-2012, 07:34 PM
OMG...

I love Adelina SO much! She is my favorite of all the up-and-coming skaters...but that FS is just a big fat NO. Her SP is good and has potential to be a nice scoring program, especially if she can land that 3-3.

However, that FS is downright terrible. The worse part is the edit of the music in particular, the last minute or so. Rather than find an instrumental of "Burlesque" they decided to focus just on Christina's "scatting" parts (I guess you can call it scatting...). The song is great and would be wonderful to skate to as an exhibition b/c it's a fun song with a lot of energy...but editing it like that is a huge mistake and I really, really, really, really, REALLY hope they reconsider and do something else.

Please Adelina! It's not too late to come up with something else or reconstruct a past program. I want to cheer for you so badly but I cannot, in good conscience, cheer for that program to win a competition. She's such a gorgeous skater...but that program is the biggest disaster I've seen in a long time. Makarova at least had a good concept behind her Marilyn program, even if the execution was terrible. Adelina needs to scrap this FS and start over.

love_skate2011
09-06-2012, 07:41 PM
^

well said, I never thought I would say this but that LP has the potential to outscore Makarova's LP as one the biggest disasters of all time, those Christina screams just makes you want to plug any hole so no sound will come out :mad:

Adelina if she wants to content for 2014, this will be her make it or break it year needs to get a better LP and for the judges to get better impressions for her from her last seasons this wont help at all, and fire Tarasova or whoever did her LP program, that was an abomination !

If not Im sorry to say this but I will stick with Liza and maybe Julia's programs better :(

julieann
09-06-2012, 08:45 PM
I donīt agree at all with the complaints over Sotnikovas LP !
I think it really looks promising and it is also a relief she is not skating to violin music which the ladies tend to do a little too much.In the beginning of the season most programs also tend to look like they lack choreo but wait and see...

^This! I really thought it was going to be a horror show but it wasn't.

I don't see getting all upset over a test skate. People complain because the costume looks cheap or it's not grown up enough. They complain when skaters skate to Carmen and then complain when a skater chooses a modern soundtrack. They care too much about test skates that even some skaters don't bother showing up for (or they only do their exhibitions.) I really think we need to wait for the season to start before thinking she needs to scrap it and start over.

caseyedwards
09-06-2012, 08:50 PM
^

well said, I never thought I would say this but that LP has the potential to outscore Makarova's LP as one the biggest disasters of all time, those Christina screams just makes you want to plug any hole so no sound will come out :mad:

Adelina if she wants to content for 2014, this will be her make it or break it year needs to get a better LP and for the judges to get better impressions for her from her last seasons this wont help at all, and fire Tarasova or whoever did her LP program, that was an abomination !

If not Im sorry to say this but I will stick with Liza and maybe Julia's programs better :(

Makarova always did well in SP's where there were less jumps and she could excel with an excellent program like she had. But as important as the good program was the lack of jumps also helped her. In Free skates her terrible and bad jumping was worse than the program. No flip, no lutz, barely there loops a lot of the time. There was almost nothing of difficulty. If she had lutz, flip, loop and all those she still would have scored much higher.

hanca
09-06-2012, 08:57 PM
Makarova always did well in SP's where there were less jumps and she could excel with an excellent program like she had. But as important as the good program was the lack of jumps also helped her. In Free skates her terrible and bad jumping was worse than the program. No flip, no lutz, barely there loops a lot of the time. There was almost nothing of difficulty. If she had lutz, flip, loop and all those she still would have scored much higher.

Well, at least we won't have to watch her at Europeans and Worlds this season. (hopefully) :shuffle:

leapfrogonice
09-06-2012, 11:28 PM
Would have to think it would be extremely difficult for Makarova to be at the Worlds right before the Olympics. Were it not for the stellar results from Leonova, Russia would not have earned 3 spots for their incredibly deep and talented ladies team, which now has so many of age.

I sense that expectations for Adelina have settled at a healthy point internationally. Such a talent with a terrific balance of athleticism, yet with powerful artistry. I actually get almost uncomfortable watching some of the hyper-super-eye popping flexibility in some of the girls. All I can think of is the surgery and rehab they are at risk of needing to undergo in the decade which will follow.

Jeschke
09-06-2012, 11:32 PM
Well, at least we won't have to watch her at Europeans and Worlds this season. (hopefully) :shuffle:
:EVILLE:
but wise said :-)

Macassar88
09-07-2012, 05:22 AM
http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/4982.html
Ilinykh and Katsalapov article

Jeschke
09-07-2012, 09:16 AM
http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/4982.html
Ilinykh and Katsalapov article

thanks for the interview, nothing escpecially new, but nice insight.

- they were in the us for three months. worked at the broadway with a dance coach, tried some modern stuff, hip hop steps, etc., and had boxing training (seems more like conditional work).

- elen made her school degree, happy about that

- talk about short and free dance. polka was not easy for them, was hard work. free dance: special music written for them, tells story of young couple, ot only love, not only drama, but absolutey her story.
so letīs see :D

- talk about change from juniors to seniors. some hints against public and russian fed about pressure for this team.

- finally their attitude towards working for the sport has changed. pushkash/guerrerio are no danger at training, they like to have 'duel', now they realized they donīt skate for themselves but for their country. and thus they get new energy

- ofte russian skaters wouldnīt think of medals, they just think of being the best russian in competition, this attitude should change. they fpund now the right way

- elena dislocated her shoulder, hurts, still not able to skate without pills and painstoppers, but she works (off the ice), as hard as she can, next season determine season.