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casken
06-13-2012, 03:47 PM
This is maybe not the right thread to ask this, but what is exactly L&K's problem, I mean beside their awful choreography. I know that, when Faiella & Scali switched to them their skating skills improved, but they didn't manage anymore to get the levels on their lifts and steps.

I always felt F&S were at the their peak in 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YOeSb3j720)and actually regressed a bit with Linichuk. They went back to making mistakes, their choreography went back to being mostly separated in hand to hand position, and she went back to looking looking like he was pulling her around the rink.

Ziggy
06-13-2012, 11:57 PM
This is maybe not the right thread to ask this, but what is exactly L&K's problem, I mean beside their awful choreography. I know that, when Faiella & Scali switched to them their skating skills improved, but they didn't manage anymore to get the levels on their lifts and steps.

I think they've never really adapted to IJS.

Outdated choreography aside, their teams don't seem to do very well on the levels, something which Shpilband has mastered to perfection.

Macassar88
06-15-2012, 04:45 AM
http://victoryshaposhnikova.gallery.ru/watch?ph=33D-dZheH#feature=topscroll

So Ekaterina Bobrova gave a skating masterclass recently. Here are some pics from it.

kwanfan1818
06-15-2012, 05:28 AM
Those are wonderful photos -- many thanks for posting them!

Asli
06-15-2012, 08:35 AM
I think they've never really adapted to IJS.


Yes, IMHO that's the problem with Linichuk/Karponosov. They're in a time warp. It's a pity, because they are such great technical coaches.

It's not just that their skaters can't get the levels despite improved skating technique. IMO the problem is also their usual tactics of withdrawing their skaters from competitions if they think they're disadvantaged either politically or preparation-wise.

These tactics used to work with the 6.0 system, when if a team was beaten by their immediate rivals in the beginning of the season, they were doomed to the end - or at least severely compromised. These are disastrous tactics with the CoP, where placements can switch and teams have to get as much feedback as possible for their levels.

IRIS1975
06-15-2012, 09:09 AM
Is there any evidence of that other than Artur Verner's statement?

Here's the list of Morozov's students. Takahashi, P|G are among them.
http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/1515.html

Jeschke
06-15-2012, 09:51 AM
Here's the list of Morozov's students. Takahashi, P|G are among them.
http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/1515.html

so miki is finally out.

letīs see, if linichuk will strike back, the question is with who?

quiqie
06-15-2012, 10:21 AM
Here's the list of Morozov's students. Takahashi, P|G are among them.
http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/1515.html
Thank you, and Nikita Katsalapov has already tweeted picture with Guerreiro among other "family" members.

Macassar88
06-15-2012, 01:39 PM
According to ISU congress, Lipnitskaya will not be able to do GP. Pity for her and pity for me. I was looking forward to seeing her at Trophee Eric Bompard. But Tuk is my favorite of the wonderbabies and she's there and it's still an amazing field.

hanca
06-15-2012, 01:54 PM
It's a pity about Lipnitskaya. Does it mean that Korobeynikova and Shelepen may get second assignment?

Moka-Ananas
06-15-2012, 01:55 PM
So Lipnitskaya will stay in JGP for one more season I suppose?

kirkbiggestfan
06-15-2012, 01:56 PM
It's a pity about Lipnitskaya. Does it mean that Korobeynikova and Shelepen may get second assignment?

Or Nagasukova. :D

love_skate2011
06-15-2012, 02:07 PM
According to ISU congress, Lipnitskaya will not be able to do GP. Pity for her and pity for me. I was looking forward to seeing her at Trophee Eric Bompard. But Tuk is my favorite of the wonderbabies and she's there and it's still an amazing field.

:wuzrobbed :wuzrobbed

so does this mean Lipnitskaya will be barred also for 2014 Olympics ?
or does it only apply for Grand Prix rules but will stick with the Olympics age rule :confused:

not much competition for Juniors
I guess there is Miyahara and Radionova she can be with


It's a pity about Lipnitskaya. Does it mean that Korobeynikova and Shelepen may get second assignment?

definitely should get 2 assignments I hope

Macassar88
06-15-2012, 02:12 PM
Julia can do GP and Olympics next year. Still sad though.
And hopefully Korobeynikova will get another chance. She has amazing jumps (her programs seem really empty, but that could improve) and it's a pity that she was so terrible at Worlds since Volchkova couldn't be there with her.

Ziggy
06-15-2012, 02:57 PM
It's a pity about Lipnitskaya. Does it mean that Korobeynikova and Shelepen may get second assignment?

Top two skaters from the replacement list will.

That is Nagasu and Korpi and they should be replacing Lipnitskaya.

Biryukova, Korobeynikova and Shelepen (in that order) are further down the list and I think that theoretically they could be picked as well but I imagine that the organisers will want Mirai and Kiira given they are "big names" (to skating fans anyway).


so does this mean Lipnitskaya will be barred also for 2014 Olympics?

or does it only apply for Grand Prix rules but will stick with the Olympics age rule :confused:

Lipintskaya will be 15 by Sochi, why would she be barred from Olympics?

What has been done at congress is equalising the Senior minimum age at 15, so the only consequence of that is 14 year old skaters not being able to do GP any more.