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Jenny
07-09-2012, 01:37 PM
She's repeatedly speculated about how various guys on the show would be as fathers to Ricki. She did the same regarding Brad when she was on his season. Don't know if it's her most important consideration in picking a man, but she's mentioned it several times.

That's because it's in the script.

Catherine M
07-09-2012, 02:20 PM
That's because it's in the script.

And it was piss poor script this time around. Not even sure if I'm going to bother to watch tonight.

Oh well, its just two more weeks till Bachelor Pad 3 starts.

talldrink
07-10-2012, 12:05 AM
Anyone think that guy from Utah is Mormon? Especially when the older brother spoke about the "shared values" he had with his wife?

Catherine M
07-10-2012, 01:01 AM
Anyone think that guy from Utah is Mormon? Especially when the older brother spoke about the "shared values" he had with his wife?

Jef has said that he is "half mormon", that he was raised in the faith (his parents are off on a mission, that's why they weren't there to meet Emily) but he doesn't participate in the church. Something like that. Its been awhile since I read that over on NewFORT.

heckles
07-10-2012, 02:44 AM
Jef has said that he is "half mormon", that he was raised in the faith (his parents are off on a mission, that's why they weren't there to meet Emily) but he doesn't participate in the church.

What does one halfway emulate Joseph Smith? By having sex with little girls, but not with other men's wives?

Catherine M
07-10-2012, 03:04 AM
Bye Sean. I'll miss seeing you on my TV every Monday night! Don't worry, the ladies of Dallas will be beating a path to your doorstep in record numbers!

madm
07-10-2012, 07:03 AM
Jef has said that he is "half mormon", that he was raised in the faith (his parents are off on a mission, that's why they weren't there to meet Emily) but he doesn't participate in the church. Something like that. Its been awhile since I read that over on NewFORT.

That's what we call a "Jack Mormon". Here's the Wikipedia definition:

The term Jack Mormon is a slang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang) term originating in nineteenth-century America. It was originally used to describe a person who was not a baptized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_(Latter_Day_Saints)) member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Christ_(Latter_Day_Saints)) but who was friendly to Church members and Mormonism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism), sympathized with them, and/or took an active interest in their belief system. Sometime in the early- to mid-twentieth century, however, the term began to refer to an individual deemed by adherents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints) (LDS Church) to be an inactive or lapsed member of the LDS Church who, despite his personal religious viewpoint, maintained good relations with and positive feelings toward the LDS Church.

Before Emily gets too serious with Jef, she should investigate what the Mormon church is all about and what it would be like living in Utah. She would not be allowed to participate in family events (e.g. weddings, baptisms) that take place in the Temple, and she would always be an outsider in the Mormon society, which dominates the Utah population. Salt Lake is less Mormon than the rest of Utah, but most of the state is 98% Mormon. I noticed at the family gathering that all the women were covered up (no bare shoulders) and everyone drank lemonade (no alcohol allowed). It's only been in recent times that blacks were allowed to join the faith. It's also a very male-dominated culture. For anyone that's interested, there's a wonderful PBS series on the Mormon people that aired a year ago - it explained their history and beliefs very well.

Catherine M
07-10-2012, 03:01 PM
After Jef saw last night's episode, I don't think we have to worry anymore about him and Emily getting to the point where she'd actually move to Utah. Its going to take alot for him to get over how she acted with Arie which is all kinds of ironic as since it was Brad's actions with Chantal that damaged Emily's relationship with Brad. History could repeat itself if Jef can't get over how connected she was to Arie, right up to the end.


And hopefully the news about Roberto being the next Bachelor is wrong and it will actually be Arie on our TVs come next January as that would be totally hot!!

Jenny
07-10-2012, 03:08 PM
And hopefully the news about Roberto being the next Bachelor is wrong and it will actually be Arie on our TVs come next January as that would be totally hot!!

Indeed - a race car driver makes much more interesting tv than an insurance agent from San Diego.

No offense to insurance agents, but you just know they'd all rather be race car drivers. :lol:

Catherine M
07-10-2012, 03:53 PM
Indeed - a race car driver makes much more interesting tv than an insurance agent from San Diego.

No offense to insurance agents, but you just know they'd all rather be race car drivers. :lol:

Yep, just not the same, a race car driver vs some insurance salesman.

I know Roberto helps Fleiss out with the whole "no minorities need apply to be the bachelor" lawsuit but man, Arie has the potential to be a real star.

And just think how CRAZY the ladies will be to win Arie. They'll make Courtney look like a nice, sweet girl.

So did anyone else laugh at the Chris (from this past season) being on Bachelor Pad 3 promo that was shown last night. I thought it was amusing. For those that missed it, show him talking about the worst heartbreak of his life to swapping spit with some random girl in night vision camera in the special make out room at the pad.

heckles
07-10-2012, 04:38 PM
Before Emily gets too serious with Jef, she should investigate what the Mormon church is all about and what it would be like living in Utah. She would not be allowed to participate in family events (e.g. weddings, baptisms) that take place in the Temple, and she would always be an outsider in the Mormon society, which dominates the Utah population.

If Jef is only a "Jack Mormon", he also would not be allowed to participate in family weddings that take place in the Temple. It's a pretty insulting thing-- Jef and Ashley would be expected to wait outside to pose in the "happy family picture" on the steps, but wouldn't be allowed inside. On the other hand, they get to avoid the garish rituals inside. Chef's hats (http://xmo.lege.net/packham/m1-sign.jpg) for the men, and green aprons (http://eyeonapologetics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Sandra-Tanner-in-LDS-Temple-Clothing.jpg) for both.

heckles
07-10-2012, 04:40 PM
Before Emily gets too serious with Jef, she should investigate what the Mormon church is all about and what it would be like living in Utah. She would not be allowed to participate in family events (e.g. weddings, baptisms) that take place in the Temple, and she would always be an outsider in the Mormon society, which dominates the Utah population.

If Jef is only a "Jack Mormon", he also would not be allowed to participate in family weddings that take place in the Temple. It's a pretty insulting thing-- Jef and Ashley would be expected to wait outside to pose in the "happy family picture" on the steps, but wouldn't be allowed inside. On the other hand, they get to avoid the garish rituals inside. Chef's hats (http://xmo.lege.net/packham/m1-sign.jpg)for the men, and green aprons (http://eyeonapologetics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Sandra-Tanner-in-LDS-Temple-Clothing.jpg) for both genders.

talldrink
07-10-2012, 07:31 PM
I guess I missed Jef's explanation of his Mormonism (or partial Mormonism) since I fast forward through most of the show. :)

talldrink
07-10-2012, 07:32 PM
oops, I tried to quote Catherine but it doesn't appear to have worked!

Rob
07-10-2012, 08:50 PM
I guess I missed Jef's explanation of his Mormonism (or partial Mormonism) since I fast forward through most of the show. :)

They haven't discussed his views specifically during airtime. We just know his family lives in Utah, his parents couldn't meet Emily because they are on a mission, his brother was acting like patriarch, the women were very conservatively dressed, and they drank lemonade at lunch. The brother mentioned that Jef was a "free spirit" and Jef has referred to himself as one too. We've seen him with what looks like alcohol in a glass. Last night, he said he'd like to stay with Emily in the fantasy suite, but he realizes that her daughter and his family could see this, and he referred to "bridling of passions," which is a phrase out of the Book of Mormon. This leads us all to believe that the family is Mormon, Jef was raised that way, but Jef doesn't fully buy into it.