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QB
04-23-2012, 04:23 PM
She's been off this whole season, TEB notwithstanding like I said.

Perhaps the reason will be clearer when her coaching situation becomes known outside the rink.

And kudos to Sato for her extreme professionalism, generosity, and forebearance in this comment on Czisny~
Czisny had the courage to come and skate in spite of her disastrous short program and rough practice sessions, and to try every one of her jumps.
"She is very upset right now, and very very disappointed, but I am proud of her," Sato said

Rafter
04-23-2012, 06:33 PM
Perhaps the reason will be clearer when her coaching situation becomes known outside the rink.

And kudos to Sato for her extreme professionalism, generosity, and forebearance in this comment on Czisny~
Czisny had the courage to come and skate in spite of her disastrous short program and rough practice sessions, and to try every one of her jumps.
"She is very upset right now, and very very disappointed, but I am proud of her," Sato said

:shuffle:

skatesindreams
04-23-2012, 06:37 PM
And kudos to Sato for her extreme professionalism, generosity, and forebearance in this comment on Czisny~
Czisny had the courage to come and skate in spite of her disastrous short program and rough practice sessions, and to try every one of her jumps.
"She is very upset right now, and very very disappointed, but I am proud of her," Sato said

Another reason to respect Yuka!

Yazmeen
04-23-2012, 06:47 PM
Perhaps the reason will be clearer when her coaching situation becomes known outside the rink.

:confused::confused::confused:

martyross
04-23-2012, 10:13 PM
:confused::confused::confused:

I think any hint should remain private.

VALuvsMKwan
04-23-2012, 10:16 PM
I think any hint should remain private.

"should have remained" - I agree, but apparently too late. Just one more thing that we aren't ENTITLED to know (no slam against you, Yaz, you know the context).

And kudos to Yuka's comment.

RD
04-23-2012, 10:59 PM
Sato doesn't seem to be the type to publicly badmouth her students anyway. Of course Czisny is "upset and disappointed"...who wouldn't be?

paskatefan
04-24-2012, 12:06 AM
And kudos to Sato for her extreme professionalism, generosity, and forebearance in this comment on Czisny~
Czisny had the courage to come and skate in spite of her disastrous short program and rough practice sessions, and to try every one of her jumps.
"She is very upset right now, and very very disappointed, but I am proud of her," Sato said


:respec:

Coco
04-24-2012, 12:37 AM
That quote struck me as really odd. It doesn't change how I feel about Sato either way, but something just feels off here.

RD
04-24-2012, 12:41 AM
That quote struck me as really odd. It doesn't change how I feel about Sato either way, but something just feels off here.

Yeah...especially the interaction during worlds. I wouldn't be shocked if she tried to find new coaching arrangements for next season since she indicated an interest in continuing.

5Ali3
04-24-2012, 07:18 AM
There were plenty of comments made about the coaching situation in another thread or several threads around the time of Worlds: this isn't new information on FSU. That being said, I think this is a situation where speculation would like rubbing salt in a wound while paramedics are still trying to stanch the bleeding: let it be for a bit, and if there's information that's publicly relevant, it will come out when the people involved know how many stitches will be required, whether the limb can be saved, or whether the wound got infected with antibiotic-resistant MRSA.

How's that for taking an analogy too far? (Maybe I should have thrown in some maggots! :yikes:)

Iceman
04-24-2012, 10:03 AM
What threads? I missed that discussion. I would be more interested in hearing Jason's comments than Sato's. Has he said anything about the matter?

QB
04-24-2012, 07:24 PM
What threads? I missed that discussion.


No, you didn't ;-)
"I am not sure how much of her coaching has been by Yuna, but I definitely don't think this experiment has worked out well, and it really hasn't worked out all that well for Jeremy either or at this point for Adam, although it is too early to tell in his case. Alissa needs a coach who is a jump specialist. OT Curious as to why she rotates her jumps clockwise. Not sure how easy that is to change, but it always seems a part of the problem to me. There is just something off with her technique. It must have taken all the courage she could muster to continue skating as one fall after the other occurred with so many looking on. What a blow to her pride this must be. I can't help but believe she is dealing with some personal crisis or problem that is overwhelming her."
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83127&page=3

Susan M
04-24-2012, 07:50 PM
One thing Alissa has in her favor is that, unlike many of the ladies, she does all of the triples (save the axel) and is capable of doing so.
Is she? If by that you mean she actually fully rotated and landed the jump at least once in her last 30 attempts, then I guess that's true. In terms of having them well under her command for competition, it clearly is not true. (Didn't someone above site a program that was considered good for her with only 3 triples?)

Years ago, skating boards/lists debated ad nauseum what it means to say a skater "has" a jump, and it usually meant landing it in competition. IMO succeeding with it less the half the time means the skater is not really capable of doing it reliably enough for competition. Back when falls mattered in skating, a skater generally needed to land a jump 9 times out of 10 in practice before most coaches would think about including in a program.


As for jump direction- I don't know if she is actually left handed (I jump CW and am not) but that is pretty ingrained. People who can spin and jump in both directions are rare, and rarely ever get to the point where they can do both equally well. Changing her jump direction would be like putting her back in the Preliminary or Pre-Juvenile level.
I agree. Very early in their development, skaters figure out which rotation direction feels better for them. I would guess her first coach probably did start teaching her jumps in the CCW direction because that is what works for more people. While skaters can learn singles in the opposite direction, it is very rare to see anyone who can do double jumps in their off-direction. (Of course, that may be in part because there is no incentive to practice them, as they have no competition value.)

Iceman
04-24-2012, 08:12 PM
I am concerned that "post traumatic syndrome" will be a problem for her in the future. I wonder if there is just too much to be overcome here, but it would be great if it turned out to be a great comeback story.


One of Carol Heiss' trademarks was a series of single axels, some done cw; others ccw. And as mentioned earlier Henie, rotated her lutzs in a different rotation than she normally jumped.