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eurodance2001
04-07-2012, 07:37 AM
This seems like a silly question but how are they selected? I ask because there are some really bad ones at US Championships that get to do it year aftet year! In particular, there's this really bad lady announcers whom after butchering names in San Jose, was at Four Continents at it again. She's the one whom was saying 'Caroline Zang'! Lol.. With a gratty nails on chalkboard kind of voice. I'm just curious how someone like her gets asked to keep announcing..

Skate Talker
04-07-2012, 05:44 PM
Nepotism in the USFSA?

RD
04-07-2012, 05:56 PM
The same lady announcer who referred to Cynthia Phaneuf as "Cynthine" or something? :rofl:

overedge
04-07-2012, 07:12 PM
I'm not excusing bad announcing, because it's really annoying. But it's probably really hard to find someone who can correctly pronounce names from many different ethnic origins *and* who is enough of a broadcasting professional to know how to sound good on the PA system *and* who (ideally) knows something about the sport they are announcing. That's a pretty tall order.

Finnice
04-07-2012, 08:15 PM
I'm not excusing bad announcing, because it's really annoying. But it's probably really hard to find someone who can correctly pronounce names from many different ethnic origins *and* who is enough of a broadcasting professional to know how to sound good on the PA system *and* who (ideally) knows something about the sport they are announcing. That's a pretty tall order.

We Finns have one, the guy who announced the 2009 Europeans in Helsinki. He is fluent in several languages and checks all the names. He has been the best announcer I have ever listened.

JasperBoy
04-07-2012, 08:19 PM
pjKwong is the best!

FSWer
04-07-2012, 08:37 PM
Say,I've been wondering about that. When Announcers (I presume they get a list of Skaters) get ready to announce the names of Skaters in Competition...for Skaters with uncommon last names,or names that don't sound in any way like there spelled (for example Lynn Kriengkrairut and Logan Giulietti-Schmitt)...do they translate names like that out into the way they would be spelled if written out the way they sound? So it can be easy for them to read? Or do Announcers just learn how to pronounce those kind of names?

Nikki Lee
04-07-2012, 08:41 PM
One of my jobs as a monitor at competitions is to give the correct pronunciation of a name to the judges. I get a request to clarify a name. I find that skater and ask how they want their name pronounced; I write down what the skater tells me phonetically and say it back to be sure I am correct. Then I take that information back to the judges.

FSWer
04-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Say,I'm glad this thread was posted. As please see my related thread about announcers and unusual spelling Skaters names.

Yazmeen
04-07-2012, 08:58 PM
My husband serves as an announcer for our club's competitions and exhibitions, and he always runs through the names and checks with someone about pronunciations of any complicated ones (and will write out the name for himself phonetically, or how it sounds). These are small events, though.

FSWer
04-07-2012, 09:02 PM
One of my jobs as a monitor at competitions is to give the correct pronunciation of a name to the judges. I get a request to clarify a name. I find that skater and ask how they want their name pronounced; I write down what the skater tells me phonetically and say it back to be sure I am correct. Then I take that information back to the judges.

cool!!! BTW. before we go on...DO you know how to pronounce Kriengkrairut and Giulietti-Schmitt? BTW. who gives it to the Announcer?

FSWer
04-07-2012, 09:04 PM
My husband serves as an announcer for our club's competitions and exhibitions, and he always runs through the names and checks with someone about pronunciations of any complicated ones (and will write out the name for himself phonetically, or how it sounds). These are small events, though.

Does phonetically mean how a word or name sounds?

Yazmeen
04-07-2012, 09:11 PM
Exactly, FSWer. For example, our last name is Weiner, but it's pronounced with and "i" sound, so someone can write it out as WINE-er to remind themselves of the correct pronuciation.

leafygreens
04-07-2012, 09:47 PM
cool!!! BTW. before we go on...DO you know how to pronounce Kriengkrairut and Giulietti-Schmitt? BTW. who gives it to the Announcer?

I think on TV they pronounced it - Kring-care-root and Ju-letti-Schmitt but if that's correct or not, I don't know.

Debbie S
04-07-2012, 09:50 PM
In the U.S., announcers and music coordinators (they train and are certified in both areas) go through similar training as judges and accountants. I believe there is some sort of formal training run by USFS, then they shadow/apprentice at competitions, starting at the club level and progressing all the way up to National level. After receiving an appointment at each level (regional, sectional, etc), they start training for the next level. It can take years, depending on how much time someone has to put into it, to get a national appointment. I don't believe there is an international or world-level appointment - I think once they reach the national level, they are eligible to work int'l events that the U.S. hosts (SA, 4CC, Worlds...).

They are volunteers who got into skating either as a participant or fan and most are not professional broadcasters. Scripts for events are usually written ahead of time, and then I guess the skaters' names get placed in based on start order. It is hard to pronounce unfamiliar names, particularly those based on another language, and I think most announcers do a good job. But yeah, that announcer at 4CC (who I believe also worked Nats) was somewhat off - I can understand mispronouncing names, but there were times she called for the next warm-up group where there was another skater to go, or said the wrong name for the event. And given that they are handed a script, it was all quite bizarre.