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skatesindreams
04-10-2012, 03:54 PM
I suspect like many people who achieve success "suddenly", he was a lousy businessman.
There are many unscrupulous "promoters"/advisers/managers who are waiting to take advantage of them; and they are often steered in the "wrong" direction.
Even toward decisions with future legal consequences.

heckles
04-10-2012, 05:13 PM
I worked in a museum while he was in his heyday, and I think there was a lot of criticism of Kincaid from the arts establishment because they thought he was overly sentimental and commercial. He did a lot of safe stuff that spoke to ordinary people, and there's nothing wrong with that in my book.

Kinkade himself said that his work was intended for suburban homes, not for museums. He knew his market. His work might not have been that profound, but neither is a lot of the other tripe passing for "contemporary art".

VIETgrlTerifa
04-10-2012, 06:35 PM
I'm surprised that so many people here truly enjoyed his aesthetic, but I guess I shouldn't be since he made buttloads of money. I always found that his art lacked subtlety and his use of lighting was so over-the-top that it really lost perspective. I think the problem many have with his work (not just begrudging his success) is that his motivating factor solely became about profit and it showed in his art. I personally never felt anything above a Hallmark card with his work.

heckles
04-10-2012, 09:22 PM
I personally never felt anything above a Hallmark card with his work.

Coincidentally enough, he has a successful Hallmark line (http://www.hallmark.com/product/greeting-photo-cards/thomas-kinkade/).

His best work of performance art, however, was urinating on a Winnie the Pooh statue at Disneyland. That was golden, pun intended.

VIETgrlTerifa
04-11-2012, 12:38 AM
:lol:

Holley Calmes
04-11-2012, 04:26 AM
Did he really pee on Pooh? Horrors!

Art covers such a wide spectrum of quality and approaches that it's totally unfair to judge what is "art" with what just misses the cut. It SHOULD be easy to say what is schlock. I think Kincaid rode the razor's edge on that one, but I'll give him his due as a technician.

Example: Monet bores the heck out of me. I freely admit he was a Great Artist, but the cult of Monet has probably produced almost as much kitch as Kincaid's stuff. Of course, we all know Monet was an immortal, so there's othing to be said about it. Or is there? Everywhere I look, there is Monet lily pond stuff on stationery notes and canvas handbags. Personally, I like handbags like that, but that's not the point.

I am also presently at work on a needlepoint pillow consisting of a quadrant of a Klimpt work-a colorful gilded square of design. I adore it. Is it different from a Kincaid tea cup? And if so, how?

Art is personal. Time will separate the Monets from the Kincaids, but there's no reason anyone shouldn't enjoy what pleases them.

heckles
04-11-2012, 10:14 PM
Did he really pee on Pooh? Horrors!


Yes. Kinkade and Pooh at Disney-- the Holy Trinity (http://galleryoftheabsurd.typepad.com/14/images/winniethepeelo.jpg) of sentimental capitalism.

falling_dance
04-11-2012, 11:13 PM
Yes. Kinkade and Pooh at Disney-- the Holy Trinity (http://galleryoftheabsurd.typepad.com/14/images/winniethepeelo.jpg) of sentimental capitalism.

Please. Winnie the Pooh is so obviously a leftist revolutionary (http://www.voiceoftheturtle.org/mao/).

Artemis@BC
04-11-2012, 11:34 PM
Art is personal. Time will separate the Monets from the Kincaids, but there's no reason anyone shouldn't enjoy what pleases them.

This. His work was not my cup of tea ... but that doesn't mean I think it should be expunged from the art universe.

Somewhat OT but ... did you know there a movie was made about (or rather inspired by) him not that long ago? It's called The Christmas Cottage (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0999872/), with Jared Padalecki as Kinkade. I think the movie pretty much mirrors his art -- scklocky and sentimental, but completely inoffensive. I only watched it because I knew some people involved in the production -- and frankly, it was the first time I'd ever heard of him or put a name to that particular brand of painting.

Anyway, RIP Thomas.

heckles
04-12-2012, 12:00 AM
Please. Winnie the Pooh is so obviously a leftist revolutionary (http://www.voiceoftheturtle.org/mao/).

A.A. Milne's classic Pooh was a honey-munching pinko, but then Walt taught the Bear with Little Brain the joys of commerce. Now Winnie and Tigger are selling the 100 Acre Wood to a condo developer.

falling_dance
04-12-2012, 12:10 AM
A.A. Milne's classic Pooh was a honey-munching pinko, but then Walt taught the Bear with Little Brain the joys of commerce. Now Winnie and Tigger are selling the 100 Acre Wood to a condo developer.

He's just lying low and waiting for more salubrious historical conditions to materialize (no social-democratic half measures for him). By making heaps of money in real estate, he can play Engels' industrialist dad to Roo's socialist researcher.