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haribobo
03-31-2012, 10:10 PM
If you had to guess right now, who are your picks for the 2013 World teams and first alternates?

Here's mine-

LADIES
ITA 3- Kostner, Marchei, no idea
RUS 3- Leonova, Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, alt. Makarova
JPN 3- Suzuki, Murakami, Asada alt. Ando?
USA 2- Wagner, Gold, alt Hicks (who the heck knows though!)
CHN 2 -Zhang Kexin and Zijun Li
GEO2- Gedevanishvili, nobody
SWE- Helgesson, FRA- Silete, FIN- Korpi, CAN- Phaneuf, alt. Osmond

MEN
CAN3- Chan, Reynolds, Firus, alt. Balde
FRA3- Amodio, Joubert, Besseghier
JPN3- Hanyu, Takahashi, Kozuka, alt. Machida
USA2- Miner, Abbott, alt. Brown
CZE2- Brezina and Verner
KAZ2- Ten, Rakimgaliev
SPN2- Fernandez, Raya
ITA2- Contesti, Bacchini?
CHN- Nan Song or Yan Han
RUS- Gachinski, I suppose

Pairs and Dance will likely remain the same, more or less.

PAIRS
GER- 2 spots (down from 3)
RUS- 3 (I'd love to see M/R make a surge for one of those!)
CAN- 2 (probable MT/M comeback)
USA- 2
CHN-3 (opening door for Zhangs to return)
ITA-2

DANCE
CAN- 3
USA- 3
FRA- 2
RUS- 3
ITA- 2

carriemarie
03-31-2012, 10:29 PM
USA MEN: Lysacek, Weir Alt. Abbott

carriemarie
03-31-2012, 10:31 PM
RUSSIA MEN: Plush

judgejudy27
03-31-2012, 11:25 PM
U.S:

Women- Wagner, Gold, first alternate- Zhang
Men- Abbott, Dornbush, first alternate- Lysacek if he returns, Rippon if he doesnt
Pairs- Same 2 as this year, first alternate- not sure
Dance- Same 3 as this year, first alternate- not sure


Japan:

Women- Same 3 as this year, first alternate- Ando if she returns, Imai if Ando doesnt
Men- Same 3 as this year, first alternate- Oda
Pairs- dont even know if they have 2 teams to send, Takahashi & Tran will make the team obviously
Dance- Reeds again


Russia:

Women- Leonova, Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, first alternate- one of the many Polinas
Men- Plushenko if he returns still after another major surgery, Gachinski if not, Voronov first alternate in that case
Pairs- Same 3 as this year. first alternate- Martiusheva & Rogonov (on the team if Kavaguti retires)
Dance- Sinitsina & Zhiganshin, Ilinykh & Katsalapov, Riazanova & Tkachenko, first alternates- Bobrova & Soloviev


Canada:

Women- Osmond, first alternate- Phaneuf or Samson
Men- Chan, Balde, Rogozine, first alternate- Reynolds
Pairs- Moore-Towers & Mosckovitch, Duhamel & Radford, first alternate- Lawrence & Swiegers
Dance- Virtue & Moir, Weaver & Poje, Gilles & Poirier, first alternate- Paul & Islam

China:

Pairs- Pang & Tong, Sui & Han, Yu & Jin. first alternate- Zhangs
Men- No idea
Dance- No idea
Women- Kexin and whoever

julieann
04-01-2012, 12:38 AM
U.S:

Women- Wagner, Gold, first alternate- Zhang
Men- Abbott, Dornbush, first alternate- Lysacek if he returns, Rippon if he doesnt
Pairs- Same 2 as this year, first alternate- not sure
Dance- Same 3 as this year, first alternate- not sure


Japan:

Women- Same 3 as this year, first alternate- Ando if she returns, Imai if Ando doesnt.
Men- Same 3 as this year, first alternate- Oda
Pairs- dont even know if they have 2 teams to send, Takahashi & Tran will make the team though I think
Dance- Reeds again


Russia:

Women- Leonova, Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, first alternate- one of the Polinas, Makarova is done (in Russia anyway)
Men- Plushenko if he returns still after another major surgery, Gachinski if not, Voronov 1st alternate in that case
Pairs- Same 3 as this year. First alternate- Iliushechkina & Maisuradze (or on the team if Kavaguti retires which wouldnt surprise me)
Dance- Sinitsina & Zhiganshin, Ilinykh & Katsalapov, Riazanova & Tkachenko, alternates- Bobrova & Soloviev


Canada:

Women- Samson if she returns, otherwise Phaneuf
Men- Same 3 as this year
Pairs- Moore-Towers & Mosckovitch, Duhamel & Radford
Dance- Virtue & Moir, Weaver & Poje, Gilles & Poirier


China:

Pairs- Pang & Tong, Sui & Han, Yu & Jin. Even if the Zhangs keep competing I see Yu & Jin being sent instead.
Men- No idea
Dance- No idea
Women- Kexin and whoever

Lubov and Nodari have broken up a while back.

pinky166
04-01-2012, 06:31 AM
U.S:

Women - Wagner, Gold, first alternate - Nagasu
Men - Miner, Farris, first alternate - Dornbush
Pairs - Marley & Brubaker, Donlan & Speroff, first alternate - Denney & Coughlin
Dance - Davis & White, Shibutani & Shibutani (if they stay together), Hubbel & Donohue, first alternate - Lynn &Logan


Japan:

Women - Asada, Murakami, Suzuki (if she doesn't retire), Shoji if she does, first alternate - Imai
Men - Hanyu, Takahashi, Kozuka, first alternate - Machida
Pairs - Takahashi & Tran, is there anyone else?
Dance- Reeds, again, is there anyone else?


Russia:

Women - Leonova, Sotnikova, Shelepen, first alternate - Tuktamysheva (puberty woes and she always seems to struggle at Nats)
Men - Plush if he returns, Gatchinski if he doesn't, first alternate - Kovtun
Pairs - Volozoshar & Trankov, Barazova & Larionov, Stolbova & Klimov, first alternate - Kavaguti & Smirnov if they don't retire, Gerboldt & Enbert if they do
Dance- Sinitsina & Zhiganshin, Ilinykh & Katsalapov, Stepanova & Bukin, first alternates- Bobrova & Soloviev


Canada:

Women- Osmond, first alternate- Phaneuf
Men- Chan, Reynolds, Rogozine, first alternate - Firus
Pairs- Moore-Towers & Mosckovitch, Duhamel & Radford, first alternate - Lawrence & Swiegers
Dance- Virtue & Moir, Weaver & Poje, Gilles & Poirier, first alternate - Paul & Islam

China:

Pairs - Pang & Tong, Sui & Han, Yu & Jin. first alternate - Zhang & Zhang (assuming Pang/Tong have finally retired)
Men - Han Yan, first alternate - Nan Song
Dance - umm
Women - Kexin Zhang, Zijun Li

France:

Pairs - James/Cypres, first alternate - erm
Men - Florent Amodio, Brian Joubert/Alban Preaubert whichever doesn't retire or comes back (doubtful it will be both), Chafik Bessiegher, first alternate - Charles Tetar
Ladies - Yretha Silete, first alternate - Anais Ventard
Dance - Pechelat & Bourzat, Carron & Jones, first alternate - is there anyone else?


Korea:

Pairs - there are none
Men - June Hyoung Lee, first alternate - Min-Seok Kim
Ladies - Hae-Jin Kim, first alternate - Ho Jung Lee
Dance - there are none

museksk8r
04-01-2012, 07:21 AM
U.S:

Women- Wagner, Zhang, first alternate- Gold
Men- Abbott, Farris, first alternate- Miner
Pairs- M/B, D/C, first alternate- Y/R
Dance- D/W, S/S, H/D, first alternate- K/G-S


Japan:

Women- Suzuki, Murakami, Asada, first alternate- ?
Men- Hanyu, Takahashi, Kozuka, first alternate- Oda
Pairs- T/T
Dance- R/R


Russia:

Women- Leonova, Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, first alternate- ?
Men- Plushenko or Gachinski, first alternate- Voronov
Pairs- V/T, K/S, B/L, first alternate- M/R
Dance- I/K, S/Z, B/S, first alternate-R/T


Canada:

Women- Osmond, first alternate- Phaneuf
Men- Chan, Reynolds, Rogozine, first alternate- Firus
Pairs- D/R, M-T/M, first alternate- L/S
Dance- V/M, W/P, G/P, first alternate- P/I

China:

Pairs- P/T, S/H, Y/J, first alternate- Z/Z
Men- Song, first alternate- Yan
Dance- H/Z
Women- Zhang, Li

Italy:

Women- Kostner, Marchei, ?
Men- Contesti, ?
Pairs-B/H, M/G
Dance-C/L, A/V

France:

Women- Silété
Men- Joubert, Amodio, Besseghier
Pairs- J/C
Dance- P/B, C/J

l'etoile
04-01-2012, 08:37 AM
Korea:

Pairs - there are none
Men - June Hyoung Lee, first alternate - Min-Seok Kim
Ladies - Hae-Jin Kim, first alternate - Ho Jung Lee
Dance - there are none

How sad. There are literally none. It's even embarrassing to list Korea among other countries above.

blue_idealist
04-01-2012, 02:49 PM
U.S:

Women - Wagner, Gold, first alternate - Nagasu
Men - Miner, Farris, first alternate - Dornbush
Pairs - Marley & Brubaker, Donlan & Speroff, first alternate - Denney & Coughlin
Dance - Davis & White, Shibutani & Shibutani (if they stay together), Hubbel & Donohue, first alternate - Lynn &Logan


Japan:

Women - Asada, Murakami, Suzuki (if she doesn't retire), Shoji if she does, first alternate - Imai
Men - Hanyu, Takahashi, Kozuka, first alternate - Machida
Pairs - Takahashi & Tran, is there anyone else?
Dance- Reeds, again, is there anyone else?


Russia:

Women - Leonova, Sotnikova, Shelepen, first alternate - Tuktamysheva (puberty woes and she always seems to struggle at Nats)
Men - Plush if he returns, Gatchinski if he doesn't, first alternate - Kovtun
Pairs - Volozoshar & Trankov, Barazova & Larionov, Stolbova & Klimov, first alternate - Kavaguti & Smirnov if they don't retire, Gerboldt & Enbert if they do
Dance- Sinitsina & Zhiganshin, Ilinykh & Katsalapov, Stepanova & Bukin, first alternates- Bobrova & Soloviev


Canada:

Women- Osmond, first alternate- Phaneuf
Men- Chan, Reynolds, Rogozine, first alternate - Firus
Pairs- Moore-Towers & Mosckovitch, Duhamel & Radford, first alternate - Lawrence & Swiegers
Dance- Virtue & Moir, Weaver & Poje, Gilles & Poirier, first alternate - Paul & Islam

China:

Pairs - Pang & Tong, Sui & Han, Yu & Jin. first alternate - Zhang & Zhang (assuming Pang/Tong have finally retired)
Men - Han Yan, first alternate - Nan Song
Dance - umm
Women - Kexin Zhang, Zijun Li

France:

Pairs - James/Cypres, first alternate - erm
Men - Florent Amodio, Brian Joubert/Alban Preaubert whichever doesn't retire or comes back (doubtful it will be both), Chafik Bessiegher, first alternate - Charles Tetar
Ladies - Yretha Silete, first alternate - Anais Ventard
Dance - Pechelat & Bourzat, Carron & Jones, first alternate - is there anyone else?


Korea:

Pairs - there are none
Men - June Hyoung Lee, first alternate - Min-Seok Kim
Ladies - Hae-Jin Kim, first alternate - Ho Jung Lee
Dance - there are none

What do you mean IF the Shibutanis stay together? Are they thinking of NOT?

pinky166
04-01-2012, 04:56 PM
What do you mean IF the Shibutanis stay together? Are they thinking of NOT?

I haven't heard anything official, but the judges seem to be dumping them and there was that Russian article that spoke about how their scores were completely undeserved or whatnot, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more like that to follow. They both seem to really care about winning medals, and I don't think they'll be able to do that if they stay together, the brother/sister thing limits them for one thing, and then I don't know if they can branch out stylistically if they stay together. They are individually very talented, but idk, I think with other, non-related partners, they could go further.

Conga
04-01-2012, 05:13 PM
I haven't heard anything official, but the judges seem to be dumping them and there was that Russian article that spoke about how their scores were completely undeserved or whatnot, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more like that to follow. They both seem to really care about winning medals, and I don't think they'll be able to do that if they stay together, the brother/sister thing limits them for one thing, and then I don't know if they can branch out stylistically if they stay together. They are individually very talented, but idk, I think with other, non-related partners, they could go further.

I agree that the Shibutanis care about winning medals, but don't think that this one competition is going to cause them to break up. And it shouldn't. They are talented together. They were, however, at a distinct disadvantage with the SD rhythm for this season, but next season's Yankee and the Olympic year's Finnstep will both suit them very well. They should be starting now to plan the progression for FDs that are different from what they have done the last two seasons. Difficult for their coaches perhaps, but not impossible.

pinky166
04-01-2012, 05:21 PM
I agree that the Shibutanis care about winning medals, but don't think that this one competition is going to cause them to break up. And it shouldn't. They are talented together. They were, however, at a distinct disadvantage with the SD rhythm for this season, but next season's Yankee and the Olympic year's Finnstep will both suit them very well. They should be starting now to plan the progression for FDs that are different from what they have done the last two seasons. Difficult for their coaches perhaps, but not impossible.

This is true. I mean this year's SD was the absolute worst for a brother/sister team, because to pull it off, you have to be sexy, and the brother/sister thing makes it so they can't, and then further, Maia and Alex are both very prim and proper and that just makes the situation even more difficult. The next two years SD will be less difficult for them, for sure. I agree about the FD too, just because they are brother/sister, doesn't mean they can only do lighthearted, cutesy ballroom routines. There are a lot of other programs that aren't cutesy ballroom and aren't sexy either, I mean, a ballet themed program could work, or even something in the same vein as D/W's "Die Fleidermouse" I think they could pull of honestly. Zoueva just needs to think out of the box and come up with something that will show a new side to the Shibs, and I think they could do better.

Also, this Worlds was for sure disappointing, but had they not bombed the FD, they would have been 7th at least, and maybe even 5th or 6th, so those are not bad placements at all honestly, given the depth of the field.

johndockley92
04-01-2012, 05:30 PM
LADIES
ITA Kostner, Marchei, Bressanutti
RUS Leonova, Makarova, Tuktamysheva, alt. Sotnikova
JPN Suzuki, Ando, Asada alt. Murakami?
USA Wagner, Gold, alt 1 Czisny, alt 2 Zhang
CHN Zhang Kexin and Zijun Li
GEO Gedevanishvili
SWE Helgesson
FRA Silete
FIN Korpi
CAN Phaneuf alt. Lacoste

MEN
CAN Chan, Reynolds, Ten, alt. Sandhu ;)
FRA Amodio, Joubert, Besseghier
JPN Hanyu, Takahashi, Kozuka, alt. Machida (Poor guy, how can he beat those other 3? :( ]
USA Miner, Lysacek, alt 1 Abbot alt 2 Farris
CZE Brezina, Verner
KAZ Ten, Rakimgaliev
SPN Fernandez, Raya
ITA Contesti, Bacchini
CHN- Han Yan
RUS- Plushenko


PAIRS

GER S/S V/V
RUS V/T B/L K/S
CAN- MT/M Bobak & Beharry :P
USA D/C M/B ( I know, so out there.. lol), 1st alt Cast/ Shnap
CHN P/T S/H Z/Z
ITA Same 2 i guess?

DANCE
CAN V/M W/P & Piper/ her partner
USA D/W S/S 3rd team will be someone else, 1st alt H/D
FRA P/B Gabriella Papadakis / Guillaume Cizeron
RUS Victoria Sinitsina / Ruslan Zhiganshin, Elena Ilinykh / Nikita Katsalapov, Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin
ITA Anna Cappellini / Luca Lanotte, Sofia Sforza / Francesco Fioretti

Habs
04-01-2012, 06:13 PM
DANCE
Piper/ her partner


:eek:

I think you meant the glorious, outstanding Paul Poirier and that girl he skates with. :P

DimaToe
04-01-2012, 06:43 PM
CAN
Ladies:Rochette (PLEEASE!!!) Alt.Osmond
Men: Chan,Reynolds,Balde
Pairs: D/R,MT/M
Dance:V/M,W/P, G/P
USA
Ladies: Wagner & Gold. Zhang if one of them messes up.
Men: No clue.
Pairs: D/C, M/B
Dance: D/W, S/S, K/G-S
RUS
Ladies:Leonova,Tuktamisheva,Sotnikova
Men:Kovtun
Dance: I/K, S/Z, R/T.
Pairs: V/T, K/S, B/L
ITA:
Ladies:Kostner,Marchei, ?
Men,Contesti, Bachini
Dance: C/L, A/V
Pairs: B/H, DM/G
FRA
Ladies:Silete
Men:Joubert,Amodio,Ponsart
Dance: P/B,Z/M
Pairs:Same ones.
CHI
Ladies: Zhang,Li
Men: Yan
Dance:Same ones
Pairs: S/H, Z/Z, P/T, Y/J if P/T dont compete.
JPN
Ladies: Suzuki,Murakami,Asada, if Ando returns it'll be interesting to see what happens, but it'll be a solid ladies team nonetheless.
Men:Hanyu,Takahashi, and either Oda or Kozuka.
Dance:Reeds
Pairs:T/T,do they even have another pair?

Are these the only nations that send athletes in each discipline?