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CoyoteChris
03-22-2012, 03:45 AM
Here is the response I received from Allen Gorden, communications Asst. ref. a shuttle bus at London and my response to him.

Hi Chris,

Thank you for your interest and your inquiry.

At this moment, we have not yet decided whether a shuttle bus option will be made available. If a shuttle bus service will exist, there will likely be a fee to ride this bus which would be unique to those who have tickets to the World Championships. In addition, there would be a chance that the shuttle service may run equally or less frequently than the public transportation.

However, the great news is that the local bus system will be free to those who present their Worlds2013 pass.

As of now, this is all of the information we have available. Please note that any information regarding a shuttle bus is tentative and still to be determined. In order to stay informed, be sure to keep up to date on www.worlds2013.ca and www.skatecanada.ca as well as Skate Canada on Facebook and twitter (@skatecanada).

Thanks again for your inquiry. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to let me know.
(My response)
Sir, Thank you for your response to my inquiry. As I am sure you are aware, many of us could only find hotels near the White Oaks Mall, four miles south of the arena.
I confess I was not very good at understanding the #13 buss schedule and stops from the web site. Perhaps I am reading the local bus system information incorrectly, but it seems as if there is only one buss that runs every half hour? And it makes quite a number of stops for its normal local passenger load? If this is true, I have to wonder if that will be near
enough seats to carry fans from the Mall area to the arena and back. There is certainly nothing wrong with using the local bus system for a shuttle....Spokane did that quite effectively for their Nats...
but they used many buses on special routes.

I applaud the decision to have the local bus system free to ticket holders. I would certainly use it if there are enough buses that would run in a timely manner. Perhaps fans staying near the Mall need to be polled to see how many actually have their own cars and how many need transportation?

I have no problem paying for an event shuttle, as long as there are enough buses to do the job. I have attended more than 15 competitions and have found that they have handled shuttles in a wide assortment of ways, both good and bad.
US Nats Greensboro, for instance, had a hard time at first but soon got things right.

We all know shuttles are expensive. Another option would be to set up a cab stand at a certain place at the Mall and fans could share cabs to the Arena and back. That would be a much faster trip than the 1/2 hour bus city ride with all its stops and the cost per fan would be quite low, I would think.

Thank you for giving this matter advanced consideration in order that we out of town fans may have a favorable experience of the London Worlds. We rabid fans can be an odd lot. We all want to get to the arena at different times for practice, find good food in a hurry during the short breaks, and then all go back to our hotels for much needed sleep at the same time. This is usually not a problem where there are large hotels near the arena. London does present some challenges in these matters.
I wish you the best luck.

Chris __________

luckiest1
03-22-2012, 01:37 PM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I live near the White Oaks mall (walking distance) and I am considering using public transit instead of driving downtown and having to pay for parking - especially now that I know it's going to be free!

CoyoteChris
03-23-2012, 02:54 AM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I live near the White Oaks mall (walking distance) and I am considering using public transit instead of driving downtown and having to pay for parking - especially now that I know it's going to be free!

Cool! Perhaps you could give us fans some insight on the local bus service.
I used to have a brain in the last century but I seem to have misplaced it.
I have trouble reading on-line MTA guides....
Does the bus indeed only run every half hour and how full is it normally?
How many stops does it make to the downtown area?
Chris at the Quality Inn.

luckiest1
03-23-2012, 03:04 PM
I am not all that familiar with the bus routes, other than the 4A and 4B routes that run past my house. They stop at Richmond & King which is only a couple of blocks from the JLC. They do go through subdivisions with many stops, and take about 20-30 minutes to get downtown. Otherwise I am reading the same maps and schedules as you are....it would be optimal if they ran extra/special/direct buses during Worlds for sure.

Emdee
03-23-2012, 04:31 PM
Hi Luckiest,
We will either be at the Holiday Inn Express or the Best Western can you let me know which bus we should take.

Will have a car but with parking hassles dont want to be in trouble.

Thanks

CoyoteChris
03-24-2012, 03:36 AM
Hi Luckiest,
We will either be at the Holiday Inn Express or the Best Western can you let me know which bus we should take.

Will have a car but with parking hassles dont want to be in trouble.

Thanks
Here is the link to the bus system.
http://www.ltconline.ca/

I spent about a half hour trying to get the info I needed but found it very frustrating. I called them and asked for a paper guide and they said they would send me one but they never did....

overedge
03-24-2012, 04:42 AM
Can I just point out that most city bus systems in Canada revise their schedules approximately twice a year? So you are wasting your time if you are trying to figure out now what the London bus schedule will be like in March 2013. Please, take a look in October or so, and if you have to worry, start your worrying then.

Emdee
03-24-2012, 10:56 AM
Overedge - we are not worrying - but researching is half the fun and creates anticipation. I will most like take taxis anyway.

overedge
03-24-2012, 06:52 PM
Overedge - we are not worrying - but researching is half the fun and creates anticipation. I will most like take taxis anyway.

Sending emails a year in advance to ask what the bus schedule is going to be is "worrying" in my books.

Scrufflet
03-24-2012, 08:33 PM
Some of us need to "disaster plan" for all kinds of reasons, medical and otherwise. I know I do.

I'm going for 3 events thus far. Don't know the schedule yet so don't know when my friend and I will be there and how many overnights we'll have but, if possible, I'd like to give the occasional lift to anyone there I can. I suppose we'll all be coordinating closer to the time next year. What fun to get FSUers together! I've never done that before! A warm Canadian welcome from me!

And don't worry about the rioters. London is a pretty laid back place usually and this was certainly out of character. Last I checked, 8 had been suspended from the college and 15 arrested; no doubt more is coming.
Getting excited for london and Nice for now!

CoyoteChris
03-25-2012, 04:10 AM
Sending emails a year in advance to ask what the bus schedule is going to be is "worrying" in my books.

Actually, Allen wrote me back and thanked me for all my input and since they are unsure about just what the heck they will actually will be doing, I think they were not just blowing me off. A skating event of this size is kind of a unique thing to handle in my opinion. I have been to quite a few of them and I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly from the fan's point of view. Much of the ugly didnt have to happen. I think Greensboro went pretty well in part cause the organizers came to Spokane Nats. the year before and talked with everyone they could about how to put on a skating event. Even me. Now that they have done it and have experience, Greensboro has put in for it again. Since this is basically a tourism bureau putting on this event in London, I think they would be prudent to listen to those with experience.
Skating fans can be rather unique tourists, to say the least.
Yes, when I talked with the mass transit folk, we did talk about how buss schedules change, season to season and even day to day. My meathod is to implant seeds into folk so that people actually see our concerns and address them in a timely manner. I would be happy with a cab stand at the mall for fans.....but I really have no idea how many fans there will be like me at those 12 hotels around the mall who need transport...and I dont think they do either. It is not too early to ask ticket holders these kinds of questions.
Happy, contented fans are more likely to spend money in your town, which is the whole idea.

agalisgv
03-25-2012, 05:00 AM
Skating fans can be rather unique tourists, to say the least. Yes, we've seen from past shuttle bus threads that skating fans tend to be a prissy, whiny, entitled lot with few social skills and even fewer walking skills :shuffle:

UMBS Go Blue
03-25-2012, 10:01 AM
I'm just confused as to what exactly a "buss" is. :confused:

Lutzcy
03-25-2012, 03:30 PM
I'm just confused as to what exactly a "buss" is. :confused:

:rollin::lol:

kwanette
03-25-2012, 04:23 PM
I'm just confused as to what exactly a "buss" is. :confused:

Well, one meaning is "kiss" as in I'd like to "buss" Peter T.