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martyross
03-29-2012, 11:54 PM
our pani is back and with an emotional review on the crazy night .please keep staying you rule vm thread eheh go pani!

IoanaC
03-30-2012, 12:05 AM
I love your funny face :D
When i saw this FD i love it from the first pratice. They flyght today across the ice.
Canada EH :D
D-W wasnt so fast, like they usually was, so from the judges sidfe i could saw some weekness in there steps.
But audience love this FD. But T-S was reall actors and first step sequenc ewas something speciall. I am so happy now :)
And i think D-W fans mut respect this T-S victory, like a lot off you did in this therad.
I am very happy for Natalie and Fabien.
W-P was so good! Keithlyn is an Angel, she was so happy for P-B :)
It was really deserve

Hey, so you were in the audience!:) What a great crowd, right? They cheered for everyone, from the first group to the last. Yes, D/W were one of the favourites, but so were W/P who absolutely brought the house down, and Tessa and Scott who got a standing ovation as well. I wasn't able to see their blades well enough from where I was sitting, but they were moving wonderfully in the diagonal step sequence, and now that I've watched it on youtube, it fully deserved a level 4.
The old lady sitting in front of me was very amused by my loud cheering and asked me if I was Canadian.:) I said "No, I just love them." As usual, I couldn't really enjoy to the fullest the moment and their performance, I was way too nervous. I swear I almost fainted waiting for the scores, and I think they were nervous too, especially Tessa. As someone else said, the GPF performance felt a bit more exhilarating. They were a little tense tonight, but they delivered! What a great way to end the season after the doubts and disappointments we were all feeling a few months ago! CANADA EH, indeed!:)

Also very happy for Nathalie and Fabian and yes, Kaitlyn's reaction after their skate was absolutely wonderful.

Bournekraatzfan
03-30-2012, 12:15 AM
I'll be watching again tonight in a much more relaxed frame of mind and really be able to enjoy all the nuances of their program. There are so many little details that escape the first time watching. I couldn't get into the Pbp thread.......probably just as well for now, I think. I can just imagine all the "wuzrobbed"s in there. So far it's pretty safe in here and I hope it stays that way.
I just love this team and hope they stay around for a long time, if not competing, then touring.:)

I love the top 5 teams so I was biting my nails through the entire final flight (and during the FDs of C&L and the Shibs before that) so I can't wait to watch them again tonight. and I agree, this program is built on small yet important details that I can't fully appreciate the first time I watch. That is the genius of this program: it is one grand masterpiece constructed through the tiniest of details.

I don't have access to the PBP and I don't desire to go into those threads. I don't have a problem with people questioning the marks or believing another team should have won, but I know some people like to get nasty and completely trash the skaters. I just hope we don't get the usual trolls coming over here to spoil our party.

and I, too, hope this brilliant team sticks around for a long time:)

Golightly
03-30-2012, 12:22 AM
First, I am so happy for them. A well-deserved title and I was just so happy, it was such an emotional season and well, to see this program win Worlds after many said it was doomed, I won't lie, it feels good.

Second, in terms of energy and engagement, I think Davis and White performed it better today, but I too noticed the edge problems in both step sequences, so I knew it would cost them. In fact, when I saw that, I thought: "Tessa and Scott need a level 4 in one of those, skate clean and the title is theirs." It was that simple. Tessa had a minor bobble that was justly penalized, which is why they got a Level 3 on their circular step sequence. So, all in all, as it happened at 4CC, levels were determinant. I also feel that unlike DW, who fell victim to their scores being so inconsistent all season long, VM's scores were pretty much always within the same range. I say DW fell victims to this because with their scores hitting highs and the lows and then highs again, they could never understand just what the judges wanted them to do. I think Cup of Russia hurt them a lot, as did Nationals. This was not DW's fault, but not facing tougher technical panels hurt them more. VM, on the contrary, identified the issues with their programs and worked to correct them. Some tweaks were brilliant, others not so much, but by not getting an overwhelmingly positive feedback, they understood they had to work really hard. This paid off.

Third, at 4CC, the technical specialist was American, right? I'll just leave it right there.

Fourth, Tessa was glowing. GLOWING. Scott was a bit more restrained, but she looked ecstatic. Funny Face undefeated all season long. This sure must mean a lot to her.

Fifth, some people regard/disregard the audience's reaction when it works to their advantage. Last year, for instance, VM got the biggest cheer, yet they lost, and then some are like: "But what do the audience know, right? They don't know about levels!" (And let's face it, most audiences don't know a thing about the technical aspects of the sport, it is true). This year, though, they are all: "And first came DW and the audience loved them, and then WP and they loved it and then PB and OMG! They were on their feet and then... well, when VM won half the audience booed." I mean, are you even serious? Of course they booed, IT'S FRANCE? Booing is in their soul. Watch the French Open. Any player that is not French gets booed.

Sixth, I am so relieved.

bbkenn
03-30-2012, 12:33 AM
First, I am so happy for them. A well-deserved title and I was just so happy, it was such an emotional season and well, to see this program win Worlds after many said it was doomed, I won't lie, it feels good.

Second, in terms of energy and engagement, I think Davis and White performed it better today, but I too noticed the edge problems in both step sequences, so I knew it would cost them. In fact, when I saw that, I thought: "Tessa and Scott need a level 4 in one of those, skate clean and the title is theirs." It was that simple. Tessa had a minor bobble that was justly penalized, which is why they got a Level 3 on their circular step sequence. So, all in all, as it happened at 4CC, levels were determinant. I also feel that unlike DW, who fell victim to their scores being so inconsistent all season long, VM's scores were pretty much always within the same range. I say DW fell victims to this because with their scores hitting highs and the lows and then highs again, they could never understand just what the judges wanted them to do. I think Cup of Russia hurt them a lot, as did Nationals. This was not DW's fault, but not facing tougher technical panels hurt them more. VM, on the contrary, identified the issues with their programs and worked to correct them. Some tweaks were brilliant, others not so much, but by not getting an overwhelmingly positive feedback, they understood they had to work really hard. This paid off.

Third, at 4CC, the technical specialist was American, right? I'll just leave it right there.

Fourth, Tessa was glowing. GLOWING. Scott was a bit more restrained, but she looked ecstatic. Funny Face undefeated all season long. This sure must mean a lot to her.

Fifth, some people regard/disregard the audience's reaction when it works to their advantage. Last year, for instance, VM got the biggest cheer, yet they lost, and then some are like: "But what do the audience know, right? They don't know about levels!" (And let's face it, most audiences don't know a thing about the technical aspects of the sport, it is true). This year, though, they are all: "And first came DW and the audience loved them, and then WP and they loved it and then PB and OMG! They were on their feet and then... well, when VM won half the audience booed." I mean, are you even serious? Of course they booed, IT'S FRANCE? Booing is in their soul. Watch the French Open. Any player that is not French gets booed.

Sixth, I am so relieved.

I love your comments, especially about France :lol::lol:

IoanaC
03-30-2012, 12:34 AM
Fifth, some people regard/disregard the audience's reaction when it works to their advantage. Last year, for instance, VM got the biggest cheer, yet they lost, and then some are like: "But what do the audience know, right? They don't know about levels!" (And let's face it, most audiences don't know a thing about the technical aspects of the sport, it is true). This year, though, they are all: "And first came DW and the audience loved them, and then WP and they loved it and then PB and OMG! They were on their feet and then... well, when VM won half the audience booed." I mean, are you even serious? Of course they booed, IT'S FRANCE? Booing is in their soul. Watch the French Open. Any player that is not French gets booed.

I can only imagine that those who claim Tessa and Scott were booed are the discontented D/W fans.:) I was there and I can assure you no one booed them. On the contrary, everybody cheered. The crowd was very enthusiastic about all the skaters, always clapping along with the music, and they truly supported everyone. Great atmosphere from beginning to end.


So, all in all, as it happened at 4CC, levels were determinant. I also feel that unlike DW, who fell victim to their scores being so inconsistent all season long, VM's scores were pretty much always within the same range. I say DW fell victims to this because with their scores hitting highs and the lows and then highs again, they could never understand just what the judges wanted them to do. I think Cup of Russia hurt them a lot, as did Nationals. This was not DW's fault, but not facing tougher technical panels hurt them more. VM, on the contrary, identified the issues with their programs and worked to correct them. Some tweaks were brilliant, others not so much, but by not getting an overwhelmingly positive feedback, they understood they had to work really hard. This paid off.

ITA.:)

HSGP21
03-30-2012, 12:43 AM
I am so thrilled for them.. watched the event on my computer in the library live this afternoon, so it had to be on mute. When you take out the sound there is NO contest at all.. Virtue and Moir have the smoothest, deepest skating out there. Their skill made them world champions again! Cannot wait for what the next two years have in store for them!

Judy
03-30-2012, 12:49 AM
I thought Davis and White were really excellent today. They had a ton of energy and really sold it but during the performance I remembered thinking that she wasn't hitting the edges during the two footwork sequences. I am not surprised they only got level 3 on them.

One thing I find interesting is the shift between GPF and now. Was there some sort of backlash against the super high marks D&W received at the GPF?

Were all the judges not warned (maybe that is too strong a word) to start toning down the outrageous marks? And this is not just directed at V&M and D&W.

Bournekraatzfan
03-30-2012, 12:54 AM
So glad you enjoyed the event, pani and IoanaC! It must have been so special to see this FD live. Thank you both for your reports. Please get home safely:)

Lissa
03-30-2012, 12:59 AM
Just read an article where it said T&S spoke about a couple stumbles, Scott said they were not that thrilled with the skate?:confused:

I did not even see a stumble by him & watched the whole thing twice :lol: WTH is he talking about, where was this stumble....

HSGP21
03-30-2012, 01:10 AM
Just read an article where it said T&S spoke about a couple stumbles, Scott said they were not that thrilled with the skate?:confused:

I did not even see a stumble by him & watched the whole thing twice :lol: WTH is he talking about, where was this stumble....

I thought she had one (sort of) before the dance spin, but maybe that was Scott (or maybe it was Tessa and he's just taking the blame)

sap5
03-30-2012, 01:12 AM
Just read an article where it said T&S spoke about a couple stumbles, Scott said they were not that thrilled with the skate?:confused:

I did not even see a stumble by him & watched the whole thing twice :lol: WTH is he talking about, where was this stumble....

You know when the first piece of music ends and Tessa sort of goes down on one knee? Scott's supposed to go down too, but he stumbled and did an extra spin to cover it up. So his time down is much shorter than usual.

Golightly
03-30-2012, 01:29 AM
I saw it live and then I saw it again on YouTube, but the quality was low. If anyone has a good video, could you please share? I did notice Tessa's little, very, very little bobble during the circular step sequence. It was so very minor, but it was there. I liked it better at 4CC, but they were very good and clinical here. I think they tried to focus on hitting the levels, you could tell that was the goal. It is to be expected too; you build a 1.33 point lead on D-W, you need to make sure you hit your levels and that is all you will need. Still, there were some excellent moments in that performance as well. The diagonal step sequence was out of this world and character-wise, this was the best I saw them perform that dance. I watched the whole thing at a very low volume (I was in a library) and I have mentioned this before, the story is there. They are just so magnificent.

Something I forgot to say earlier: I am glad they built a good lead, so any doubt there might be about the placement, it's more visceral than rational, in my opinion. I know there's a lot of anger and frustration around right now, but if you check protocols and watch the performance with a cool head, you will see those points. Basically, the step sequences decided it.

Macassar88
03-30-2012, 01:31 AM
I realized that I'm not that pissed at the dw ubers and their accusations. I'm too happy that Scott and Tessa won. I couldn't be happier and can't wait for next year

lauravvv
03-30-2012, 01:36 AM
Thank you for your reports, IoanaC and pani. It's good to read impressions from those who have seen it all live :).

Well, I am so glad that Tessa and Scott won, so - congratulations to them and to all the other fans :). But, at the same time, I am not so glad that it had to be with an imperfect skate. Of course, their mistakes were minor, but in a competition like this it mattered. Not when it came to marks, as it turned out, but - I would have liked to know that they were brilliant on the day of their victory, and that those Davis/White fans really had nothing valid to say against them. But, oh well, you can't have everything. Now, lets hope for a great next season - preferably with a program in a more contemporary style for a change.

Also really glad for Pechalat/Bourzat, Weaver/Poje, Cappelini/Lanotte and Ilinykh/Katsalapov :D. I really didn't wish such unsuccessful skates to Shibutanis and Bobrova/Soloviev, but I can't say that I am unsatisfied with the overall placings :shuffle:.