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Allskate
02-26-2012, 06:55 PM
I still think Shilanne Woodley should have gotten a supporting actress nod for the Descendents. She stood out to me more than Clooney did.

I thought she was great and would have nominated her over Jessica Chastain.

taf2002
02-26-2012, 07:00 PM
I thought Viola Davis was brilliant, not just in the delivery of her lines, but in what she conveyed in her expressions & body language. And even though I think Meryl Streep is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, actresses I've ever seen, I think Viola was as great in this movie as Meryl has been in many movies.

I haven't seen My Week With Marilyn but I have seen many trailers for it & I thought Michelle Williams was dreadful. The two actresses in the TV show Smash convey more of a MM vibe than Michelle Williams does. I hope either Meryl or Viola wins.

Cachoo
02-26-2012, 07:04 PM
I still think Shilanne Woodley should have gotten a supporting actress nod for the Descendents. She stood out to me more than Clooney did.

^this^

Vash01
02-26-2012, 07:08 PM
I still think Shilanne Woodley should have gotten a supporting actress nod for the Descendents. She stood out to me more than Clooney did.

I think Woodley should have been nominated for the supporting role. In the leading men category this was a relatively weak year. Not that those nominated did not deserve the nomination, but beyond those 5, there are not many great performances this year. OTOH on the womens side there are so many great performances that some deserving ones did not get nominated. I have not seen Tilda Swinton's movie and I am wondering if she just missed the cut?

I also felt that if foreign movies can be nominated in both Best Picture and Best foreign language film, 'A separation' should have been nominated for BP also. Although I liked '.....incredibly close', and questioning its BP nomination over the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and possibly a few others.

Matryeshka
02-26-2012, 07:18 PM
Will win: The Artist
Should win: The Descendants
Want to win: Hugo

I thought The Artist was the most overrated movie of the year. Maybe the most overrated movie of the last five years. It was nothing more than a gimmick. The characterization was dreadful--I don't see how anyone could have rooted for the Artist to succeed--he was vain, proud, self-indulgent and weak. The girl lead was not much better. I mean, did anyone actually learn or grow at all in that movie? Don't want to speak; I know, we'll TAP DANCE! :blah:

I had high hopes at the beginning--the first time we hear sound in the Artist's nightmare was really effective in the juxtaposition between the genteel world of silent films and the onslaught bravura of talkies. I had some hopes for it, only to be completely dashed by the characters. It felt like it was three hours long, and the ending was unbelievably contrived.

I'm all for The Descendants winning of the two. Oscar bait it is, but it's well-done, well executed Oscar bait, and the little details of that movie continued to surface for me days after watching it. I think it will endure longer than The Artist. Agree that Shilanne Woodley was completely robbed of a supporting acrtress nod--what an incredible talent.

I sort of hate myself for saying this because it's Woody Allen, but some friends and I watched Midnight in Paris On Demand last night, and what an amazingly charming movie. That was a movie that had it all--characterization, plot, cinematography, sense of place, just :swoon: Paris (the city) almost deserved a supporting actress nom from that movie. The whole movie just shone. If it twas moi deciding Oscars, this would be runner-up to...

Hugo. This was the movie The Artist was trying to be. Charming, simple, well-done. I like movies that make you root for the characters--all the characters--to succeed. What a wonderful homage to the Golden Age of Hollywood.

Loved The Help, but don't think it's Oscar caliber. I think Meryl Streep gave an Oscar-winning performance in a mediocre movie.

I'm perplexed by Moneyball's nomination. I thought it was a well-executed movie, but not much else. To me, Moneyball is the bare minimum standard to which movies should be made.

I haven't seen Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, War Horse or Tree of Life.

I will say this for this year's crop of movies--it's A LOT better than last year's.

HeatherC
02-26-2012, 07:21 PM
I really liked her too. I hope she develops into something great.

Aren't the Oscars going to be on mainstream TV this year? I do have cable, so it's not a problem for me, but i am so used to seeing them on the regular networks.

The Oscars are always on ABC but I think the pre-show stuff is on E.

Jenna
02-26-2012, 07:30 PM
So I rented Warrior last night and I enjoyed it. Nick Nolte was very good deserved his nomination.

Vash01
02-26-2012, 07:48 PM
Will win: The Artist
Should win: The Descendants
Want to win: Hugo

I thought The Artist was the most overrated movie of the year. Maybe the most overrated movie of the last five years. It was nothing more than a gimmick. The characterization was dreadful--I don't see how anyone could have rooted for the Artist to succeed--he was vain, proud, self-indulgent and weak. The girl lead was not much better. I mean, did anyone actually learn or grow at all in that movie? Don't want to speak; I know, we'll TAP DANCE! :blah:

I had high hopes at the beginning--the first time we hear sound in the Artist's nightmare was really effective in the juxtaposition between the genteel world of silent films and the onslaught bravura of talkies. I had some hopes for it, only to be completely dashed by the characters. It felt like it was three hours long, and the ending was unbelievably contrived.

I'm all for The Descendants winning of the two. Oscar bait it is, but it's well-done, well executed Oscar bait, and the little details of that movie continued to surface for me days after watching it. I think it will endure longer than The Artist. Agree that Shilanne Woodley was completely robbed of a supporting acrtress nod--what an incredible talent.

I sort of hate myself for saying this because it's Woody Allen, but some friends and I watched Midnight in Paris On Demand last night, and what an amazingly charming movie. That was a movie that had it all--characterization, plot, cinematography, sense of place, just :swoon: Paris (the city) almost deserved a supporting actress nom from that movie. The whole movie just shone. If it twas moi deciding Oscars, this would be runner-up to...

Hugo. This was the movie The Artist was trying to be. Charming, simple, well-done. I like movies that make you root for the characters--all the characters--to succeed. What a wonderful homage to the Golden Age of Hollywood.

Loved The Help, but don't think it's Oscar caliber. I think Meryl Streep gave an Oscar-winning performance in a mediocre movie.

I'm perplexed by Moneyball's nomination. I thought it was a well-executed movie, but not much else. To me, Moneyball is the bare minimum standard to which movies should be made.

I haven't seen Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, War Horse or Tree of Life.

I will say this for this year's crop of movies--it's A LOT better than last year's.

I too found Artist rather gimmicky, for B&W and silent, but most others found it extraordinary for the very same reason. I have to disagree with you that it was nothing more. The cinematography was brilliant, the acting was excellent, and it had a very nice mix of comedy and tragedy. I feel it's overrated/overhyped, that's all.

I loved your comment - Hugo was the movie the Artist was trying to become. That was brilliant. They were both about the bygone days of movies, but one movie chose to go back to that era (B&W, silent) and the other was totally new age (3D, lavish color). I enjoyed Hugo more than the Artist.

About Midnight in Paris- you had another great line about the city (Paris) should win the supporting actress nom. The visuals, the music really brought Paris in the best light in the movie. It made me want to go back there for a visit. The story was clever, and I even liked Owen Wilson in that movie- that's a great director!:lol:

I liked the Descendants as a movie; I just did not feel that Clooney's acting was better than the other nominated actors (I have not seen A better life, so I can't include that).

I have seen all 9 nominated movies. I felt that Tree of life and Extremely loud were overrated, and should not have been on the BP list.

BigB08822
02-26-2012, 07:51 PM
One thing that makes me happy is that I truly truly get the feeling that Meryl doesn't care if she ever wins another Oscar. Maybe one day a role will come along that is especially important to her and she will hope to win for it but I think most of the time she just enjoys getting recognized/nominated but she really enjoys seeing others get to experience what she has already experienced twice. I remember her reaction when Cher won, she literally jumped out of her seat in excitement and began clapping as hard as she could and she was nominated! Then we hear her comments about hoping Viola wins this year. I have heard she does very little campaigning as well. It helps lessen the blow when she doesn't win.

Allskate
02-26-2012, 07:54 PM
The story was clever, and I even liked Owen Wilson in that movie- that's a great director!:lol:

I ordinarily don't like Own Wilson or Woody Allen. And I still liked Midnight in Paris. The only thing I didn't like was the Rachel McAdams character. But, overall, I was surprised by how much I liked the film.

IceAlisa
02-26-2012, 08:01 PM
You were not supposed to like Rachel McAdams' character. :shuffle:

I loved that movie--it was like seeing old friends, recognizing all the luminaries of different times.

Allskate
02-26-2012, 08:14 PM
You were not supposed to like Rachel McAdams' character. :shuffle:

The problem was not that the character was a jerk. There are roles in movies where the person being portrayed is a horrible person, but the character makes the movie a good movie. I thought her character was so ridiculously (and one-dimensionally) obnoxious that it was almost a caricature and made it impossible to understand how the Own Wilson character ever decided to get engaged to her. There really didn't seem to be much humor or anything interesting involved with her character, either, unlike some of the other characters in the movie who weren't nice people. In other words, it was a poor character, not just a someone who we weren't supposed to find likeable.

IceAlisa
02-26-2012, 08:37 PM
Fair enough.

Cheylana
02-26-2012, 09:15 PM
Anyone know which documentary is considered the front-runner? I've only seen To Hell and Back Again (aka Restrepo 2.0), which I didn't really like.

jenny12
02-26-2012, 09:37 PM
Anyone know which documentary is considered the front-runner? I've only seen To Hell and Back Again (aka Restrepo 2.0), which I didn't really like.

I haven't see To Hell and Back Again, but I was thinking Pina was a front-runner since it's gotten really good reviews. I haven't seen Pina, but I saw another nominated documentary, Undefeated, recently which is about an inner-city Memphis high school football team. I thought it was very engaging. I was worried before I saw it that it'd be another saintly white coach saves inner-city youths, but it was a lot more than that. It was not as good as Hoop Dreams (from way back in 1992) which is on similar themes, but overall it was a powerful documentary.