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jettasian
03-10-2012, 06:35 PM
Hmm, if that's all your evidence, I'm afraid you would lose your case in court. :P

It's more like someone is trying to stir some controversy or bias judging when there's none.

Sylvia
03-10-2012, 06:53 PM
Photo evidence? :P Did Chan Fall in the [4 Continents] Short Program? (http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/results_four_continents/4c12%20Fall%20Definition.htm)

bardtoob
03-10-2012, 07:49 PM
Photo evidence? :P Did Chan Fall in the [4 Continents] Short Program? (http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/results_four_continents/4c12%20Fall%20Definition.htm)

Just look at the leg extension and pointed toe in that fall :swoon: . . .:D

Vash01
03-10-2012, 08:27 PM
Photo evidence? :P Did Chan Fall in the [4 Continents] Short Program? (http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/results_four_continents/4c12%20Fall%20Definition.htm)

Normally I would not have called this a fall, but based on the rules posted next to the picture, it appears to be a fall (the body weight seems mostly on the two hands)

jettasian
03-11-2012, 02:58 AM
Chan already got -3 from that. But apparently, that's not enough. It's very typical that only Chan's score get scrutinized in CSI format. It would not be any issue for other skaters.

Proustable
03-11-2012, 03:43 AM
Just look at the leg extension and pointed toe in that fall :swoon: . . .:D

Was totally thinking that.

briancoogaert
03-11-2012, 09:22 AM
See the edit in my previous post.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1112/gpf1112_Men_SP_Scores.pdf

Two judges gave only -1. A figure skater hitting a wall that hard is like a dancer falling off the stage.
I asked this before on this board and it seems a fall doesn't mean -3.
Judges have to appreciate the whole jump, they must give negative GOE, between -1 and -3. If they see difficult entrance, good air position and so on, they can give only -1.

VarBar
03-12-2012, 12:50 PM
Photo evidence? :P Did Chan Fall in the [4 Continents] Short Program? (http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/results_four_continents/4c12%20Fall%20Definition.htm)

lol I honestly thought the system would differentiate between a fall like Chan's and this fall for instance, otherwise why would a skater struggle to avoid hitting the ice with his/her butt after a poor landing.

http://0.tqn.com/d/figureskating/1/0/Y/J/-/-/falling2.jpg

It seems though that the two falls should be treated the same way. Well, it's never too late to learn new things.:)

But I still can't link that photo to Lori Nichol instructing the judges how to judge, I must be missing something.:confused:

Back to the purpose of this thread, now I wish I had voted for Stojko because he still has 0 votes and Browning could have done without my vote.

jettasian
03-12-2012, 06:00 PM
But I still can't link that photo to Lori Nichol instructing the judges how to judge, I must be missing something.:confused:


You did not miss anything because it's nonsense created by some typical posters who like to create some accusation when there's none. Chan won because he skated better than other skaters, not because he's the judges' pet, or Lori Nichol told the judges to do so, or Canada pressuring the judges etc.

wickedwitch
03-12-2012, 08:40 PM
Button was not only a brilliant jumper, but a brilliant spinner, too. He invented the flying camel.

It's between him and Browning for me.

jettasian
03-13-2012, 04:44 AM
Button was not only a brilliant jumper, but a brilliant spinner, too. He invented the flying camel.


I'm surprised it didn't name after him, "flying button".

Though those older skaters invented moves, could they measure up to today's skating standard? I don't think so.

bardtoob
03-13-2012, 05:15 AM
^ At his last Worlds on ABC during a program he said something to the effect of "that, I'm afraid, is called a Button Camel, but I haven't called it that in 50 years." I think he thought it was unprofessional to reference his own accomplishments. I would venture to say the every 4 years crowd from the 80s on probably never knew he was a two time OGMist.

Marco
03-13-2012, 09:39 AM
"that, I'm afraid, is called a Button Camel, but I haven't called it that in 50 years." I think he thought it was unprofessional to reference his own accomplishments. I would venture to say the every 4 years crowd from the 80s on probably never knew he was a two time OGMist.

Either that, or he doesn't want a layover to be called "Belly Button". :scream:

(lame, I know :slinkaway)

Jenny81
03-13-2012, 12:01 PM
I love Kurt.
He is, personally, a nice fellow.
But... I voted for Dick Button. (Sorry, Kurt.)
He's a living legend for me.

care bear
03-13-2012, 12:25 PM
I voted for Mr.Orser. Just love.