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Cyn
02-22-2012, 01:55 AM
News clip: http://news.sport-express.ru/2012-02-20/494709/

He says that the doctors found an intervertebral disc hernia of considerable size. Also, Mishin is quoted saying that in April they will start working on the new program and they are going to collaborate with foreign specialists from Europe and America.


Somehow I suspect those specialists are not choreographers....

Perhaps it's Tom Z. :EVILLE: :saint:

Vash01
02-22-2012, 03:17 AM
When did Plush ever have a quad lutz?

He was training one; I don't remember the year but he got injured while practising it. Then he had to limit himself with the jumps he was already landing. I don't remember if that was in 2002 or 2006 .....may be 2005?

PrincessLeppard
02-22-2012, 03:31 AM
He almost landed it at Cup of Russia in 2002 (2001?), but I don't think he ever put in competition again.

Sally1214
02-22-2012, 04:07 AM
As much as it pains me to say it, I really think Plush should retire from competitive skating. He's just had way too many injuries and surgeries.

I've loved watching him skate over the years but I hope he will now make the decision to put his health first. Surely, he wants to be able to walk around without pain when he's 40.

Wishing him all the best and speedy recoveries from these latest surgeries.

Nomad
02-22-2012, 04:22 AM
He almost landed it at Cup of Russia in 2002 (2001?), but I don't think he ever put in competition again.

I vaguely remember that. Isn't that when Michael Weiss started attempting that jump?

l'etoile
02-22-2012, 09:32 AM
I for one am thrilled to see his competing spirit yet again but all I want to say to him now is "That's enough! You're already a living legend and there's no room for anyone to top what you've accomplished".

Seriously :(:(

berthesghost
02-22-2012, 04:08 PM
I vaguely remember that. Isn't that when Michael Weiss started attempting that jump?
No, Weiss did it way before. He regularly included it in his lp the entire 97-98 season as he wanted to make a big splash at his first olys. Never landed it though. :(

senorita
02-22-2012, 04:19 PM
I vaguely remember that. Isn't that when Michael Weiss started attempting that jump?

I dont know what pista gel is :rofl: but this is from COR 2002, he slipped the last moment, gahh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yEvVzq_uyA

ItalianFan
02-22-2012, 05:05 PM
As much as it pains me to say it, I really think Plush should retire from competitive skating. He's just had way too many injuries and surgeries.

I've loved watching him skate over the years but I hope he will now make the decision to put his health first. Surely, he wants to be able to walk around without pain when he's 40.

Wishing him all the best and speedy recoveries from these latest surgeries.

Basing my assumption on every Plush interview I ever heard, I'm willing to bet that he'd sacrifice being without pain at 40 to participate in full regalia in Sochi. His desire to compete overcomes any other consideration as far as I can see. But I hope he will be rational and take off the time it takes to heal. I wish him a speedy recovery!

Nan
02-22-2012, 05:10 PM
I hope Mishin and Yana and everyone in his camp are prepared to tie him down if neccessary!


I always had the feeling that these were the people who encouraged him to continue.

Finnice
02-22-2012, 05:16 PM
It is his life and his decision. He said in Sheffield that he loves competing and it gives him great satisfaction. His decisions may not be the wisest in the long run, and they certainly will arouse lots of discussion, but I guess he is old enough to know what he wants.
I am not his biggest fan, but I can not help respecting his command on the ice and his willpower to continue.

rfisher
02-22-2012, 05:51 PM
I never liked his skating back in the day as it were, but he is one of the best competitors I've ever watched in any sport. Other skaters had the opportunity to win Europeans and they flat out fell apart in the free skate; whereas, Plushenko owned the ice and skated away with the gold. The others were like nervous little boys next to a confident man. I am looking forward to watching him skate in his home country in 2014. He and his team seem to know exactly what they are doing and how they want to get there. They will have COP point earning programs for the OLYs. If Mishin can instill half of Plushenko's confidence into Gachinsky and Tuk, he will have a formidable team of skaters in two years. I hope the surgeries go well and he's able to get back on the ice where he wants to be as quickly as possible. Without knowing all the details, neither of the two surgeries are necessarily problematic nor will require extensive rehab. I hope that is the situation for Plushenko.

ItalianFan
02-22-2012, 10:01 PM
I never liked his skating back in the day as it were, but he is one of the best competitors I've ever watched in any sport. Other skaters had the opportunity to win Europeans and they flat out fell apart in the free skate; whereas, Plushenko owned the ice and skated away with the gold. The others were like nervous little boys next to a confident man. I am looking forward to watching him skate in his home country in 2014. He and his team seem to know exactly what they are doing and how they want to get there. They will have COP point earning programs for the OLYs. If Mishin can instill half of Plushenko's confidence into Gachinsky and Tuk, he will have a formidable team of skaters in two years. I hope the surgeries go well and he's able to get back on the ice where he wants to be as quickly as possible. Without knowing all the details, neither of the two surgeries are necessarily problematic nor will require extensive rehab. I hope that is the situation for Plushenko.

exactly my opinion (except for the never-liked-his-skating bit).....

Japanfan
02-22-2012, 10:52 PM
I never liked his skating back in the day as it were, but he is one of the best competitors I've ever watched in any sport. Other skaters had the opportunity to win Europeans and they flat out fell apart in the free skate; whereas, Plushenko owned the ice and skated away with the gold. The others were like nervous little boys next to a confident man. I am looking forward to watching him skate in his home country in 2014.

I think it's fair, though, to expect that he will be a shadow of his earlier form. He didn't have much competition at Europeans.

senorita
02-22-2012, 11:04 PM
He didn't have much competition at Europeans.
Why, because KVDP withdrew?:shuffle:
:P

Yes Japan/USA/Canada skaters werent there and theoritically anyone of those and not only Chan can beat him, including Fernandez and Brezina who were also at GPF and were expected to kick his butt.
Overscored and all he has the second best season's score...for now. I expect this to change by Worlds.