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johndockley92
02-18-2012, 02:54 AM
With their 3rd place finish and jump consistency problems all season I wonder what the future holds for this team. I wonder if they will retire before 2014 or plan on attempting to make the olympic team. Thoughts?

olympic
02-18-2012, 03:46 PM
In another thread, it was posted that they talked about training until Sochi in their post-Nats interview [I hope I'm remembering that correctly]. I hope so. They need to go out on a high(er) note.

Leeedward
02-18-2012, 04:14 PM
In another thread, it was posted that they talked about training until Sochi in their post-Nats interview [I hope I'm remembering that correctly]. I hope so. They need to go out on a high(er) note.

They are beautiful skaters in every way--- but jump inconsistency has plagued them for years. If they make their jumps they score well-- as they should. But alas, skating life is plagued with disappointments if the jumps aren't there-- and with this couple, failure in this aspect comes all too frequently. Even so, I wish them well.

carriemarie
02-18-2012, 09:39 PM
While I hope that they continue for another year at least to end their career on a better note, but the reality is they have been doing this together for ten years and another year of training is a huge commitment. Mark has a family and Amanda has a degree, so they have post-skating options. The thing about them is that Amanda can land those jumps. I have seen her do them numerous times in practice. It feels like she has just lost confidence in the jumps during competition. Anyhow, I feel like they will give at least one more year. They are already half way through the quad, but best of luck to them regardless of their decision. They just have to do what's best for both of them.
And it's no shame having five national medals and being Olympians:) They will be missed if they retire.

DarrellH
02-18-2012, 10:34 PM
They are beautiful skaters in every way--- but jump inconsistency has plagued them for years. If they make their jumps they score well-- as they should. But alas, skating life is plagued with disappointments if the jumps aren't there-- and with this couple, failure in this aspect comes all too frequently. Even so, I wish them well.

^
This!

aftershocks
02-18-2012, 11:52 PM
I've loved Evora/ Ladwig for many years. I did not find them as compelling to watch this season, but their lifts as always remain consistent, difficult and gorgeous. I don't know if it was discussed in other threads, but I thought Bezic's comment that Amanda was just "too nice" as being a reason why she struggled with her jumps was :confused: :rolleyes: :blah: Amanda would never have gotten this far in skating if she did not have talent, drive and athletic toughness. There may be a psychological, physical or mechanical limitation that can be overcome. But yes, they are an older team which makes things more difficult overall. I do wish E/L all the best no matter what they decide. Niceness has nothing to do with not being able to land a jump.

Can't stand listening to Bezic/ Hamilton crew anymore. Not even Terry G can help their awful commentating.

Johnny's excellent commentary for icenetwork during the men's competition, to me further highlights the weaknesses of NBC's entrenched Scott and Sandra.

Sit_spin
02-19-2012, 12:06 AM
Niceness has nothing to do with not being able to land a jump.

This. You can be either nice or mean, and still have problems with jumps.

I do hope they stick around (I'm a fan), but I especially hope they do what's best for them.

legjumper
02-19-2012, 02:37 AM
I think that Evora & Ladwig should stick around as long as they want, as long as they're loving what they're doing and feel they have more to give to the sport. However, I think that realistically, if they hope to go to Sochi, they should be rooting for Denney/Coughlin and Marley/Brubaker to finish 6th and 7th at 2013 Worlds to qualify three teams for the Olympics. (Hey, it could happen....)

museksk8r
02-19-2012, 02:23 PM
However, I think that realistically, if they hope to go to Sochi, they should be rooting for Denney/Coughlin and Marley/Brubaker to finish 6th and 7th at 2013 Worlds to qualify three teams for the Olympics. (Hey, it could happen....)

A month ago I never would have even thought this a remote possibility, but when Skate Canada basically ditched Moore-Towers/Moscovitch for one poor showing all season at Nationals in favor of the unseasoned Dube/Wolfe, the landscape certainly changed for the Canadian pairs World team. I still think 4CC was a fluke for Duhamel/Radford though; any other competition they have easily finished ahead of both American teams and their performances at Canadian Nationals, particularly the LP, could easily have them top 5, maybe even bronze contenders at Worlds. Kirsten and Dylan normally could easily finish ahead of both American teams too. I certainly could not picture either of the American teams finishing top 5 in the World right now though, unless some really :confused: bizarre things were to happen and they were to skate phenomenal personal bests.

olympic
02-19-2012, 03:26 PM
A month ago I never would have even thought this a remote possibility, but when Skate Canada basically ditched Moore-Towers/Moscovitch for one poor showing all season at Nationals in favor of the unseasoned Dube/Wolfe, the landscape certainly changed for the Canadian pairs World team. I still think 4CC was a fluke for Duhamel/Radford though; any other competition they have easily finished ahead of both American teams and their performances at Canadian Nationals, particularly the LP, could easily have them top 5, maybe even bronze contenders at Worlds. Kirsten and Dylan normally could easily finish ahead of both American teams too. I certainly could not picture either of the American teams finishing top 5 in the World right now though, unless some really :confused: bizarre things were to happen and they were to skate phenomenal personal bests.

Most of what you say is true. But, last year Y/C beat D/R in the final standings at Worlds. I realize that Y/C and D/C are 2 different teams but it was the same situation last season where the CAN teams were ranked ahead of Y/C through til '11 4CC's. It was probable that D/R or MT/M would beat them at Worlds, but it didn't happen that way.

I still generally agree with you, but I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if an American team finished ahead of D/R on the World stage.

museksk8r
02-19-2012, 03:37 PM
Most of what you say is true. But, last year Y/C beat D/R in the final standings at Worlds. I realize that Y/C and D/C are 2 different teams but it was the same situation last season where the CAN teams were ranked ahead of Y/C through til '11 4CC's. It was probable that D/R or MT/M would beat them at Worlds, but it didn't happen that way.

I still generally agree with you, but I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if an American team finished ahead of D/R on the World stage.

Yeah, that's where the :confused: bizarre things happening I eluded to in my post comes into play; who would have ever thought that Meghan would have broken Eric's nose coming down from the split 3 twist in the SP? That incident clearly and understandably rattled Duhamel/Radford at Worlds last season. And yes, Denney is in no way comparable to Yankowskas and her exquisitely beautiful lines and posture. Anyway, I fully expect all 3 Russian pairs representatives, both Chinese pairs representatives, Savchenko/Szolkowy, and Duhamel/Radford will finish ahead of both American teams barring the :confused: unexpected. The Americans are expected to be staying alive among the ranks of Takahashi (a shame she has so many jump inconsistencies; otherwise, they'd be a top 5 team)/Tran, the Italians, Dube/Wolfe, and others.

Sylvia
02-19-2012, 04:26 PM
I think that Evora & Ladwig should stick around as long as they want, as long as they're loving what they're doing and feel they have more to give to the sport. However, I think that realistically, if they hope to go to Sochi, they should be rooting for Denney/Coughlin and Marley/Brubaker to finish 6th and 7th at 2013 Worlds to qualify three teams for the Olympics. (Hey, it could happen....)
But 2013 Worlds is being held in Canada. ;)

Getting back to Evora/Ladwig :) ... in their immediate future are the 2 "Skate into Spring" shows at their Ellenton, Florida rink on Saturday, February 25 - more info: http://ellentonice.com/ice-news/123-skate-into-spring-right-here-at-the-ellenton-ice-a-sports-complex

love_skate2011
02-19-2012, 07:48 PM
Evora/Ladwig, remind me of Kavaguti/Smirnov
veterans but if they hold on together for many more seasons, I believe they can still get that top us pairs spot.

Vash01
02-19-2012, 08:19 PM
Evora/Ladwig, remind me of Kavaguti/Smirnov
veterans but if they hold on together for many more seasons, I believe they can still get that top us pairs spot.

Sorry, but i have to disagree with you on both. I don't see K&S beating V&T at this point. However, if V&T have a bad day, K&S could win. As much as I like K&S, at this point their best hope is for a world bronze.

I don't see E&L beating the current top two US pairs, even though E&L are a better pair overall. They have always struggled with the jumps and I don't see how that could change. If it's just nerves, it can be fixed. If it's technique, it's too late to fix that. Sadly E&L's hope at this point is for a US bronze.

love_skate2011
02-19-2012, 09:08 PM
Sorry, but i have to disagree with you on both. I don't see K&S beating V&T at this point. However, if V&T have a bad day, K&S could win. As much as I like K&S, at this point their best hope is for a world bronze.

I don't see E&L beating the current top two US pairs, even though E&L are a better pair overall. They have always struggled with the jumps and I don't see how that could change. If it's just nerves, it can be fixed. If it's technique, it's too late to fix that. Sadly E&L's hope at this point is for a US bronze.

K&S were no.1 pair in russia before V&T and they achieved that. K&S had jump troubles even their throws but now they have improved.

if its technique its not yet that too late, 3 more seasons if they can regroup they can still outskate M/B although not C/D