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cruisin
02-13-2012, 09:59 PM
Or just plain-old-different people. I think Gaga's overall schtick and some of her songs have some extremely positive messages for young people. E.g., Born this Way, Bad Kids. I'd let six year olds listen to a lot of her music v. none of, say, Ke$ha's. :lol:

I agree. Alezfred is right, she is a champion for LGBTQ people. But she goes beyond that, she is a champion for anyone who is different and bullied. I am not necessarily a fan of her music, but I am a fan of the person.

oleada
02-13-2012, 10:02 PM
I think the media reaction to Brown beating Rhianna has been absolutely ridiculous and sad. Like that article said - "there are two sides?" Usher getting ripped apart for defending her? He's never shown any real remorse; clearly still has anger issues and makes homophobic slurs. He's being treated like he's overcome some great adversity, while in reality, he beat up his girlfriend. What great adversity is that? It's being swept aside like nothing happened, which is frankly insulting. And then there's quotes like this:


“We’re glad to have him back,” said executive producer Ken Ehrlich. “I think people deserve a second chance, you know. If you’ll note, he has not been on the Grammys for the past few years and it may have taken us a while to kind of get over the fact that we were the victim of what happened.”


Yes. The Grammys. They were the victims. What an insult to all the women (and men!) who are victims of domestic violence.

masofs
02-13-2012, 10:39 PM
I saw the collection of tweets from women saying Chris could beat them, because he's hot and whatnot. So incredibly sad.

That's sick. :scream:

It is basically like spitting in the face of every single victim of domestic violence...:(

BigB08822
02-13-2012, 10:53 PM
What is that quote about Brown not being at the Grammy's the last few years? I swore he did a routine at the Grammy's last year where he was on wires and danced and floated all over the place. Maybe I am confusing it with a different awards show? Even so, they felt they had to make it up to him by giving him 2 slots this year? Oh, and do you know WHY he probably wasn't there last year (if in fact he wasn't)? Probably because of the RESTRAINING ORDER if Rihanna was in the building.

AragornElessar
02-14-2012, 06:29 AM
I agree. Alezfred is right, she is a champion for LGBTQ people. But she goes beyond that, she is a champion for anyone who is different and bullied. I am not necessarily a fan of her music, but I am a fan of the person.

Exactly. I've also heard how if she or her web site/Twitter people see a posting that has the very slightest whiff of someone saying "Goodbye" before doing something horribly tragic, she/they try to do all they can to figure out from the IP addy where this person is and then checked on to ensure they're okay. Lady Gaga truly does walk her talk and I also don't think the Gaga ride's over yet.

When she first burst on the scene, I didn't care that much for her, but after getting a chance to listen to her music at a cousin's, I was turned to the Monster side. ;) ITA w/whomever said that unlike some of the others outside of Adele and Jennifer Hudson, Lady Gaga actually *can* sing and really doesn't need all the smoke and mirrors.

But it certainly helps her put on a show. :D

My sister called over today and we got talking about the Grammys. She asked me if I'd seen Lady Gaga and her outlandish getup. It wasn't until Judy said she couldn't believe she overdid it so much on the tanning spray to look black and if she'd been a Black person in the crowd last night, she would have been offended. That had me going "Huh!?!", then asking what Gaga was wearing when Judy saw her.

"Oh...Surely you saw her on the Red Carpet swaddled up in that red cloak thing and escorted by a guy dressed as the Pope. And what was up w/that!?!"

Even after close to ten minutes of me telling her that wasn't Gaga, I still don't think Judy believes me. :lol:

Wyliefan
02-14-2012, 01:36 PM
As an Alison Krauss fan, this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9078641/Alison-Krauss-makes-Grammy-history.html) was nice to see -- even if she didn't get to have her awards presented during the actual ceremony!

Scintillation
02-14-2012, 03:13 PM
He's taking his licks...I understand why some are still so angry with him, but when does he get a chance to redeem himself?

When he does a good deed that actually redeems behaving like an a$$hole? I don't think making an album about fame counts. I know it's a little irrational on my part considering I don't know the guy at all, and maybe there is another side to the stories about him beating up Rihanna, or the time he had a tantrum and threw a chair out of a window. Instead of doing something to try and make up for his actions, it's like they're just glossing it over and hoping everyone will forget. Most people probably will, considering our collective attention span in this country is equal to that of a fly.

adagiodancer
02-14-2012, 03:56 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1606481/chris-brown-police-report-provides-details-altercation.jhtml

Court documents released Thursday revealed details about the case against Chris Brown, including a police statement that the incident began when Rihanna (real name: Robyn Rihanna Fenty) found a text message on Brown's cell phone from "a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with."

A search warrant used by police to obtain cell-phone records related to the case included the sworn statement by Los Angeles Police Detective DeShon Andrews in which he detailed what allegedly happened in the early morning hours of February 8.

"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.

"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.

"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "

The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.

"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'

"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'

"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.

"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.

"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.

"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.

"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.

"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.

"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.

"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."

susan6
02-14-2012, 05:21 PM
Anonymous (or someone of their ilk) should have hacked the grammys and projected these details on the backdrop of the stage while Chris Brown was performing.

julieann
02-14-2012, 05:54 PM
whole post

And yet after that when she friended him on Twitter she told all her fans
"Its f***in twitter, not the alter! calm down," (http://www.ivillage.com/rihanna-upsets-fans-following-chris-brown-twitter/1-a-350375)

He either needs to be in jail or left alone to live his life, can't have it both ways.

topaz
02-14-2012, 09:22 PM
And yet after that when she friended him on Twitter she told all her fans
"Its f***in twitter, not the alter! calm down," (http://www.ivillage.com/rihanna-upsets-fans-following-chris-brown-twitter/1-a-350375)

He either needs to be in jail or left alone to live his life, can't have it both ways.

He's already been charged, sentenced and served his sentence.

topaz
02-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Anonymous (or someone of their ilk) should have hacked the grammys and projected these details on the backdrop of the stage while Chris Brown was performing.

If that's the case than many of people who have received grammys should have the details of their case and charges filed against them published too.

julieann
02-14-2012, 10:19 PM
He's already been charged, sentenced and served his sentence.

Then people wanting their 'pound of flesh' or 'redemption' need to get over it. Like she apparently has.

rjblue
02-14-2012, 11:34 PM
As an Alison Krauss fan, this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9078641/Alison-Krauss-makes-Grammy-history.html) was nice to see -- even if she didn't get to have her awards presented during the actual ceremony!
That is amazing. I knew she had many Grammys but I didn't know she had the most!

I still remember tuning in to Austin City Limits a long long time ago and becoming entranced by a young woman I'd never heard of, playing the violin and singing with the most amazing pure tone to her voice.

I'm thrilled that the Civil Wars won both of their Grammys (sorry Kelly- you are amazing, but Barton Hollow is a song for my eternal playlist), and I can understand why they didn't have them sing the whole song, because it would have brought the house down, and made people even more perplexed at the lack of a best new artist Grammy for them.

BigB08822
02-14-2012, 11:57 PM
I think the Civil Wars were very deserving but just not in the Country category. There isn't a Blues/Folk category? That is my only question about their win.