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heckles
02-17-2012, 12:05 AM
Some of the "recovering celebrity addicts" that have been interviewed since her death have been very harsh and judgmental about Whitney and her struggle.

Who has been "harsh"?

Has Leif Garrett said anything yet? Talk about someone whose hotness went up in smoke. Any guy who got to juggle Brooke Shields and Marie Osmond (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8osa-WyjIRo) before either went whack is da man.

allezfred
02-17-2012, 12:10 AM
I couldn't agree more. It really troubles me.

I think you need to get some real troubles. :P

skatesindreams
02-17-2012, 12:14 AM
You haven't been watching some of the people interviewed by Dr. Drew (on HLN) or Piers Morgan, among others...

Rob
02-17-2012, 12:14 AM
There was a time when people wore that on purpose though :P I'd say mismatched clothing is very subjective.

I sometimes wear two different colored shoes when I get dressed for work when it is still dark out. I have blue and black shoes in the same style and I have worn one of each more than once!

Also, I keep business shoes under my desk in case I have a meeting on a day when I wear walking shoes to work. One time, someone important came and asked me to come to a meeting so I quickly stepped into my business shoes. Only I stepped into one of each pair. Both black, same heel height, totally different styles. Looked down at the meeting and went oops and tucked my feet under my chair.

soxxy
02-17-2012, 12:31 AM
The Westboro Baptist Church will be there picketing. :rolleyes: They have no problem with Whitney's Christianity, but with her "gay fanbase."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/whitney-houston-funeral-westboro-baptist-church_n_1283072.html?ref=gay-voices

Civic
02-17-2012, 12:32 AM
The funeral is Saturday, at The New Hope Baptist Church. It is private (invitation only), though they have agreed to allow cameras inside. There was talk about it being at The Rock, but that was never really going to happen. The Devils have a home game there Friday night. Newark will not be shut down, though I suspect there will be some major traffic jams. But it's Saturday.

I don't blame the family for having a private funeral. It will be hard enough on her mother and daughter without having strangers gawking at them. I am surprised they're allowing any cameras inside. I would have banned them as well if I were her family.

PeterG
02-17-2012, 01:18 AM
Flying the flag at half staff for a singer who was a known drug user and not for the soldiers who return home in caskets - so wrong.


ITA. :( :(


I couldn't agree more. It really troubles me.

judiz, nubka or AxelAnnie - what have you seen or read that makes you feel this way? I did one google search and found this article (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57379123-10391698/whitney-houston-n.j-governor-defends-lowering-flags-for-singer/). It states:


The governor noted he has ordered flags flown at half-staff for all 31 fallen New Jersey soldiers and every fallen police officer during his time in office. He also ordered flags lowered last year for Clarence Clemons, the saxophonist for Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band.

Rex
02-17-2012, 01:37 AM
The Westboro Baptist Church will be there picketing. :rolleyes: They have no problem with Whitney's Christianity, but with her "gay fanbase."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/whitney-houston-funeral-westboro-baptist-church_n_1283072.html?ref=gay-voices

Newark will be ready for them. Maybe they need a beatdown at this point.

AxelAnnie
02-17-2012, 02:09 AM
judiz, nubka or AxelAnnie - what have you seen or read that makes you feel this way? I did one google search and found this article (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57379123-10391698/whitney-houston-n.j-governor-defends-lowering-flags-for-singer/). It states:

It is my understanding that lowering the American flag is a show of respect and of honor reserved for people who die in service to our country, or to honor someone who made an extraordinary contribution to our country....like a President.

Can the Governor order the flag to be lowered: (http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/faq.htm#q58)

I don't know about anyone else, but when I was a kid we learned about the flag, about how to fly it, when to fly it, how to fold it, and how to honor it. Lowering the flag to half mast is a big deal. Whitney Houston's death, IMO, does not in any way rise to the level of this honor. And lowering it for Clarence Clemons....really?
BTW - Love Chris Christie! Loved Whitney.

topaz
02-17-2012, 02:21 AM
If Nixon can have buildings named after him, flying a flag at half-mast for a fallen famous citizen from one's home state is not a crime. I don't know if I would have done it as governor, but I mean, really...

This!!!

I heard the reason Gov. Christie did this and I don't have a problem with this. I don't think that it is such a big freaking deal.

In regards to the others being critical of Whitney and her drug use/addiction, it's honest. We know the issues that Whitney had with Wendy Williams. Wendy called her out on her addiction issues a few years ago. I don't always agree with Wendy's brash style, but she is right to say one can't say one thing publicly,i.e thanking Jesus and God; then the next minute getting drunk and snorting cocaine. It's phony and hypocritical.

MacMadame
02-17-2012, 02:23 AM
You haven't been watching some of the people interviewed by Dr. Drew (on HLN) or Piers Morgan, among others...
Well, I don't listen to Dr. Drew because he's a quack. ;)


The Westboro Baptist Church will be there picketing. :rolleyes: They have no problem with Whitney's Christianity, but with her "gay fanbase."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/whitney-houston-funeral-westboro-baptist-church_n_1283072.html?ref=gay-voices
So should we take bets on whether or not they actually show up this time?


It is my understanding that lowering the American flag is a show of respect and of honor reserved for people who die in service to our country, or to honor someone who made an extraordinary contribution to our country....like a President.
Yeah, it seems kind of weird to be lowering the flag for a celebrity. Not that I care all that much to be honest. It just strikes me as a frivolous use of flag lowering.

Skittl1321
02-17-2012, 02:39 AM
Can the Governor order the flag to be lowered: (http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/faq.htm#q58)


The Flag Code is a guide. It suggests that flags only be lowered for public officials, but the governor can proclaim flags be flown at half-staff for others.


Do you have a .gov site that supports your position? A .org isn't necessarily the law. (And the Flag Code, while technically law, has no means of being enforced)


Again, the provisions of the Flag Code on flying the flag at half-staff are, like all the Code’s provisions, a guide only.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf
So while this document does not say that the governor can proclaim it for anyone, it also does not say that s/he cannot.

AxelAnnie
02-17-2012, 02:58 AM
^^^ Yep. CRS Report for Congress (http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf)

The Flag Code sets out detailed instructions on flying the flag at half-staff on
Memorial Day and as a mark of respect to the memory of certain recently deceased
public officials.33 This section embodies the substance of Presidential Proclamation
No. 3044,34 entitled “Display of Flag at Half-Staff Upon Death of Certain Officials
and Former Officials.”
The section provides that the President shall order the flag flown at half-staff for
stipulated periods “upon the death of principal figures of the United States
Government and the Governor of a state, territory, or possession.” After the death
of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag may be flown at half-staff according
to Presidential instructions or in accordance with recognized custom not inconsistent
with law. In addition, the Governor of a state, territory, or possession, or the Mayor

Although this is not binding, it does lay out the guidelines. I think he made a wrong decision. Illegal? No.
Ill advised? Yep (in my opinion)

Carmen Ovsiannikov
02-17-2012, 03:05 AM
I don't blame the family for having a private funeral. It will be hard enough on her mother and daughter without having strangers gawking at them. I am surprised they're allowing any cameras inside. I would have banned them as well if I were her family.

Apparently the funeral is going to be streamed online with E! reporting from outside the church.

I think it should have been completely private. Nobody needs to have cameras in their faces for people to (as you said) gawk at. Especially not Bobbi Kristina.


Newark will be ready for them. Maybe they need a beatdown at this point.

Don't these people have jobs or something. Jeesh, or maybe their jobs are to wait for people to meet with misfortune so they can picket the funerals. :rolleyes:

I would love to see these whackos get a beatdown in Newark.

Rex
02-17-2012, 03:11 AM
I would love to see these whackos get a beatdown in Newark.

Wish I could be there to see it.