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AragornElessar
02-05-2012, 12:43 AM
W/the following posted at CBC Sports, thought I'd start the thread for this year. Some old and new faces will be at the Scotties in a couple of weeks.

CBC Sports ~ Jones, Scott among Tournament of Hearts qualifiers (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/curling/story/2012/01/29/sp-tournament-of-hearts-qualifiers.html)

Also the Canadian Jrs started today. My Northern Ontario girls didn't fare so well in their first game losing to Manitoba. Hope it was just first game jitters and they have a better time of it in the Second Draw tonight.

kylet3
02-05-2012, 01:24 AM
I curled again Bottcher in my junior days, and while he's a twerp and annoys the hell outta me, he's a good curler and I expect him to contend for the title...

As for the Scotties... I will NOT be cheering for Team Alberta. I despise the third on that team I know her personally and may I just say UBER b*tch...

Here's how I look at it for The Scotties:

The Contenders:

1) Manitoba (Jennifer Jones) - She's got the most experience and is the Harry Houdini of the women's game. She made a circus shot to win in Manitoba (poor Chelsea Carey again!) has won this event a bunch of times and with Jill O back they'll easily be contending to win this event again.

2) British Columbia (Kelly Scott) - Kelly is re-invigorated this season with Dailene Sivertson curling with her. The youthful injection has only helped her and she was solid in winning the BC final. Kelly and Sasha Carter have won this event twice with a world title to boot and can easily win here.

3) Team Canada (Amber Holland) - Amber is the defending champion. Her and Heather are such solid players and Amber stood on her head to win the silver medal at the World Championships. The weakness comes in the middle of the team and the Schnieder sisters. They were mediocre at best and cost Amber the World Title. They are going to have to really up their games if they want to get to the final.

Can Contend

4) Quebec (Marie-France Larouce) - Marie-France has a new team this year with a really solid third who has national experience. The last time the Scotties were in Red Deer, Marie-France skipped the team all the way to the finals. They've showed some more consistency this year. The front end is going to have to be up to snuff if they are to contend but I think they can rise at thr right time. I hope Marie-France gets a shot at the end of the week.

5) Nova Scota (Heather-Smith Dacey) This is the true wild-card team here at the event. They've only played two events on tour this year, but were the strongest team out of a tough province. They won the bronze medal last year and if Heather gets hot, they could very well surprise here and do better than last year. She needs another big week out of her front-end to set her up.

6) Alberta - (Heather Nedohin) - My personal feelings aside, I was at provincials and the team really was rock solid all week and rose at the right time to win the provincial title. Beth Iskiw and Lanie Peters both played for Heather Smith-Dacey's Nova Scotia team the last time the Scotties were in Red Deer in 2004. That being said Alberta has not been a consistent team at the Scotties since 1998. When they are on they are very good, when they are off, they are not good... Heather has good memories of Red Deer winning the 96 World Junior here so it will really be a matter of which team shows up.

7) Saskatchewan (Michelle Englot) - Upset Stefanie Lawton's team to make it back to nationals so they can obviously play. That being said Michelle is a very inconsistent thrower and when the pressure is on Michelle tends to crumble. Lana Vey is a good thrower and made a Scotties final as a third but I'm still not convinced they can make a run at it.

Pretenders

8) Ontario (Tracy Horgan) - A very young and inexperienced team here that ended up stealing their way over Homan to the Ontario title, they got hot at the right time to win, but this will be their first time under the spotlight and I think the TV Cameras may get to them.

9) Prince Edward Island (Kim Dolan) - Kim and her team bring a wealth of experience to the table and Rebecca Jean has been to plenty of tie-breakers and playoff games but they are a very new team and don't get out to a ton of spiels and events. They have the ability to knock off some teams.

10) Territories (Kerry Galusha) - Kerry again, tons of experience and has beaten Jennifer Jones consecutively at the Scotties and has also knocked off Amber Holland this season. That said, they just don't have the consistency to be there at the end of the week.

11) Newfoundland (Heather Strong) - Heather has been here a ton of times and can easily hit with the likes of the man but her draw game is weak, and her sister is inconsistent as well. A young and inexperienced front end. Won't be a factor at the end of the week.

12) New Brunswick (Rebecca Atkinson) - Former junior champ Andrea Kelly throwing last but not skipping this time. Again, they lack consistency and a solid game-plan. Should be happy to be there.

Skate Talker
02-05-2012, 09:32 PM
Thanks for all the preview-ing. This week the Manitoba men's provincial championship takes place and some of it will be live- streamed starting Wednesday Feb 8th. I rather doubt they would go to the bother of geo-blocking so if anyone wants to watch they should give it a try. Top 2 seeds are Stoughton and McEwan again.

http://www.safewaychampionship.ca/AskCommentators.cfm

AragornElessar
02-06-2012, 12:42 AM
Our dish provider's Shaw and they've been showing the Prairie/BC Provincials on their Premium/Preview channel since taking over from Star Choice a couple of years ago. I just keep forgetting to watch is all. Anyway...Looking forward to seeing the Manitoba Provincials, as that always is an entertaining Final.

Thanks for that preview Kyle. A pity the Princess got out of Manitoba again, but...Oh well, at least we know who we *won't* be cheering for in this house come Scotties Week.

ITA w/you about Nova Scotia being the Wild Card. We also have a soft spot for the Territories. We're in Northern Ontario and my Dad was a Miner so...POLAR POWER!!! :D

Dave of the North
02-07-2012, 02:34 AM
Bit of an upset in NB - James Grattan lost the NB Mens final to Terry Odishaw.

kylet3
02-07-2012, 08:34 PM
I happen to refer to Jennifer Jones as bitchface... :lol: She definitely won't have my support that week. There seem to be a lot of new faces at the Brier so far...

Skate Talker
02-08-2012, 01:36 AM
Sigh, sorry but I have to support Jennifer Jones. Home province team and all that. She always seems to know how to make a game exciting anyway.

Not that I don't understand how others feel. I had some of that same feeling about Coleen Jones for many years. Seems if a ladies team sticks around for any length of time I get kind of bugged by them, tired of seeing them, etc. The stronger they are..... Doesn't seem to happen so much for the men's teams - the old double standard, I guess. Though I did go through about a decade of disliking Kevin Martin - have come back around now to being okay with him. Now I think the only men's team that bugs me a bit is Howard. He seems to sulk big time when things don't go his way.

kylet3
02-08-2012, 03:33 AM
Sigh, sorry but I have to support Jennifer Jones. Home province team and all that. She always seems to know how to make a game exciting anyway.

Not that I don't understand how others feel. I had some of that same feeling about Coleen Jones for many years. Seems if a ladies team sticks around for any length of time I get kind of bugged by them, tired of seeing them, etc. The stronger they are..... Doesn't seem to happen so much for the men's teams - the old double standard, I guess. Though I did go through about a decade of disliking Kevin Martin - have come back around now to being okay with him. Now I think the only men's team that bugs me a bit is Howard. He seems to sulk big time when things don't go his way.

Being in Edmonton and knowing many in the curling community, I get what you're saying about Colleen Jones, but at least they were nice ladies. Well 3/4 (depending on what day you caught Nancy Delahunt). So I was able to cheer for them in their later run. Kevin Martin at least with him what you see is what you good and I happen to be good friends with Marc Kennedy and family and he's a really good guy so it's hard to cheer against them (especially against the likes of asshat Randy Ferbey). That being said, I won't be sad if Koe makes it out of AB this year and they very well could.

As for Jennifer Jones, she's a straight up Beyotch and everyone knows it. I'll cheer for international teams before I cheer for her as Team Canada, yes she is a very good shotmaker, but I absolutely despise her as a person. Her and Jill O and what they've done in the past to people like poor Cathy O and Dana Allerton with no good reason. I will NEVER support her. Rant done.

I hope BC, Quebec or Team Canada come through and wins this year.

AragornElessar
02-08-2012, 04:32 AM
I happen to refer to Jennifer Jones as bitchface... :lol:

Well...That works too, but remember I live w/my 81 year old Dad and 80 year old Mom, so I have to watch my mouth. ;)


Kevin Martin at least with him what you see is what you good...

I know what you mean there and I have to say considering Kevin would have been well w/in his rights to think my Dad and I were stalking him at a Grand Slam event in Lively/Walden about 10 years ago just due to how many times we managed to run into him either together or apart (My Dad and I together), it wouldn't have shocked us to see him get a bit "touchy" when he saw us, but he never did. It was getting rather "Are you KIDDING me!?!" towards the end of the weekend though, but in a :lol: kind of a way.


As for Jennifer Jones, she's a straight up Beyotch and everyone knows it. I'll cheer for international teams before I cheer for her as Team Canada, yes she is a very good shotmaker, but I absolutely despise her as a person. Her and Jill O and what they've done in the past to people like poor Cathy O and Dana Allerton with no good reason. I will NEVER support her. Rant done.

I hope BC, Quebec or Team Canada come through and wins this year.

All I can say to that is AMEN!! She's one of the few Athletes who when they represent Canada on the World scene, I just can't cheer for her. Plus, I have a cousin who works at Casino Rama and the one and only time Her Highness was at the TSN Skins Game so far? To say she made an impression is an understatement and it wasn't the kind you want to make either.

kylet3
02-09-2012, 12:31 AM
Well...That works too, but remember I live w/my 81 year old Dad and 80 year old Mom, so I have to watch my mouth. ;)



I know what you mean there and I have to say considering Kevin would have been well w/in his rights to think my Dad and I were stalking him at a Grand Slam event in Lively/Walden about 10 years ago just due to how many times we managed to run into him either together or apart (My Dad and I together), it wouldn't have shocked us to see him get a bit "touchy" when he saw us, but he never did. It was getting rather "Are you KIDDING me!?!" towards the end of the weekend though, but in a :lol: kind of a way.



All I can say to that is AMEN!! She's one of the few Athletes who when they represent Canada on the World scene, I just can't cheer for her. Plus, I have a cousin who works at Casino Rama and the one and only time Her Highness was at the TSN Skins Game so far? To say she made an impression is an understatement and it wasn't the kind you want to make either.

As for Kevin Martin, he can certainly be arrogant, but he's usually pretty good with his fans and accommodating them and chatting with them :) And being that you were at an event in a small town with relatively small attendance, running into them is not a surprise :lol: As for the parents, luckily my mom and I both share an equal amount of hate for her...

I refuse to cheer for her. Ever. What she's pulled in terms of stunts on and off the ice speak to her as a person. Her and Jill O. Dawn A. is the very quiet "yes" woman who basically just goes along with what they say. It doesn't surprise me she was the uber beyotch. Now go with Cheryl Bernard who was there last year, I'm guessing if your cousin experienced them it would have been the total opposite... Those girls are amazing. I love Cheryl to death (she happens to be another friend), and she's down with the gays (I introduced her to my bf at the time :lol:) and in a very conservative sport it was a nice gesture. I was sad to see them split up.

I hope someone can really rise up at the Scotties this year and someone other than her can win it.

judgejudy27
02-09-2012, 12:51 AM
The best thing about Jennifer Jones is her constant 3rd or 4th place finishes at big global events which are fun to ridicule her for. I personally think she and her team have peaked and should we develop any kind of depth she will never win another Scotties (or Olympic trials). However whether we have reached that point yet I am not sure.

kylet3
02-09-2012, 02:10 AM
The best thing about Jennifer Jones is her constant 3rd or 4th place finishes at big global events which are fun to ridicule her for. I personally think she and her team have peaked and should we develop any kind of depth she will never win another Scotties (or Olympic trials). However whether we have reached that point yet I am not sure.

With any luck at all... from your lips to the curling god's ears...

judgejudy27
02-09-2012, 02:41 AM
Lets face it though, we have been in a weak era for Canadian womens curling. That is why we so rarely come back Champions from major events anymore. Since Jennifer Jones won her first Scotties in 2005 we have won only 2 of 9 World events. Anette Norberg on her own has won more than double the entire country of Canada with 5, and the latter 2 well past her prime, and one of them with basically a junior team she took over. Jennifer Jones couldnt even win the tragic 2010 World Curling Championships which was missing almost all the top teams from Olympics, and where the final ended up being a 50 year old Andrea Schopp and her 50 something long time mate Monika Wagner vs a team of teenagers who were still in juniors from Britian. One would think it was an exhibition game between the winner of the World Senior Curling Championships and World Junior Curling Championships but no it was point blank the World Ladies Curling Champoinships, and both teams managed to outdo Canada's so called queen of curling at the time. Jennifer Jones legacy will be just having been the best Canadian team at the worst time ever for Canadian womens curling. I doubt we can continue being so weak much longer.

kylet3
02-09-2012, 03:24 AM
The problem is the rest of the world has really caught up with us. While they may not have the number of curlers that we have, the quality is there and just as good. China is expanding beyond Bingyu Wang and if China gets on a roll... Look out. Sweden has some young and really good curlers coming up aside from Norberg. Muirhead strikes me as a bit of a bitch too but she's scary good and will win many world titles of that I have no doubt. There's a lot of really young talent around the world and they've caught up with us, I'm sure Russia is investing a bunch into their teams as well. We can't be the best all the time. Even though she still had two shots to win, I was so proud of Bernard winning silver against that field, because it was an incredibly tough field to come through and many didn't even think she could medal (I was one of the initial doubters myself). Based on what I've seen from juniors on the women's side, while there is some talent there, there is none that I can see that is really making me stand up and go "wow" just yet. I think Homan has potential for it. Kelly Scott's team has their new young vice as does Heather Smith-Dacey. It's crucial I feel for Canada to win the world title this year. It'll be nearly four years and that quite simply is unacceptable. With Norberg out of Worlds this year, the title is there for the taking, though I think Muirhead has to be the favorite at this point.

AragornElessar
02-09-2012, 03:43 AM
I wish I could disagree w/the both of you, but I just can't. You've both done an excellent job of saying what's wrong w/Cdn Curling on the Ladies side.

Just speaking from my area of Canada, the Team Canada program for the Scotties has really killed development of the Ladies game in Northern Ontario. Good friends of ours have friends who are on the Board for Curling in N. Ont and they've tried and tried to get the CCA to bring back a Team N. Ont for the Scotties, but they just won't go for it. Meanwhile, we send these great teams w/potential to the Cdn Jr's on the Girls side of things, but due to no chance to competiting at the Scotties, they either quit competitive Curling or end up going out of province to pursue it.

It's not helping the development of the game when we're losing potential Curlers due to something like this.

Yes, I know...Some don't like the fact there's a Team N. Ont at the other Cdn Championships, but look at it this way...I know people who complain there's four Team Ontarios at Canadians, so...