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Mayra
02-05-2012, 01:02 AM
She also has to win the fluff pieces! Is she cute and charming enough to make it?

She can juggle apples. End of competition.

:cheer: Gracie!

Nomad
02-05-2012, 01:12 AM
She can juggle apples. End of competition.

:cheer: Gracie!

But can she juggle flaming torches? Or porcupines?

mia joy
02-05-2012, 01:22 AM
Yes, clips exist on youtube of Gold doing 3-3-3 in practice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWrN5LHG9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnyABvzdiM


aww, a female baby van der Perren ;)

but other than that, I think all of these girls are great jumpers, but most of them lack personality on ice. No wonder, they're just juniors. Whoever gets out of her shell and shows some character first, will win me as a fan.

demetriosj
02-05-2012, 01:27 AM
[QUOTE=Jammers;3469051]I think her coach made it a point this year to work on her jumps because without them you are not going anywhere as a figure skater in competition. QUOTE]

I know this is snarky, but what about Alissa? She's gone plenty far with poor jumping ability?

Mayra
02-05-2012, 01:35 AM
But can she juggle flaming torches? Or porcupines?
She can do it all. What's more impressive, she can do it while doing a 3axel on a harness!


Who do the Russians have that can compete with that?! A Marilyn Monroe wannabe?! Pfffft!

Jammers
02-05-2012, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=Jammers;3469051]I think her coach made it a point this year to work on her jumps because without them you are not going anywhere as a figure skater in competition. QUOTE]

I know this is snarky, but what about Alissa? She's gone plenty far with poor jumping ability?
How many more competitions would Alissa have won over the years if she could landed her jumps?

PashaFan
02-05-2012, 12:12 PM
She can do it all. What's more impressive, she can do it while doing a 3axel on a harness!


Who do the Russians have that can compete with that?! A Marilyn Monroe wannabe?! Pfffft!

Why so bitchy?

DORISPULASKI
02-05-2012, 12:13 PM
Her US Nationals SP is on youtube.

The music is not wonderful, to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnRW0N5IcY&feature=related

olympic
02-05-2012, 03:10 PM
Right now, Gracie and the 3 Russians are probably the medal threats at JW's. She is the only Junior lady that can keep up with them.

Gracie might have a slight edge on Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, and Lipnitskaya on TES, but their gap over her in PCS will probably be the winning factor

Domshabfan
02-05-2012, 03:15 PM
Right now, Gracie and the 3 Russians are probably the medal threats at JW's. She is the only Junior lady that can keep up with them.

Gracie might have a slight edge on Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, and Lipnitskaya on TES, but their gap over her in PCS will probably be the winning factor

Gracie probably has an edge over Sotnikova, but i can't see her having any edge over Liza or Julia. Liza has lot more transition coming out of jumps and i don't think Liza's jump are any way inferior to Gracie's, spins both will receive same levels. As for Julia, she more than makes up of her technical content with very GOEs on spins, which non of the three other girls can match.

bek
02-05-2012, 03:24 PM
Right now, Gracie and the 3 Russians are probably the medal threats at JW's. She is the only Junior lady that can keep up with them.

Gracie might have a slight edge on Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, and Lipnitskaya on TES, but their gap over her in PCS will probably be the winning factor

Why should Gao be completely left off she does have a gorgeous 3flip/3toe.

olympic
02-05-2012, 03:34 PM
Gracie probably has an edge over Sotnikova, but i can't see her having any edge over Liza or Julia. Liza has lot more transition coming out of jumps and i don't think Liza's jump are any way inferior to Gracie's, spins both will receive same levels. As for Julia, she more than makes up of her technical content with very GOEs on spins, which non of the three other girls can match.

To clarify more, I think that Gracie has an edge on the big elements, like the jumps, and on PCS elements like SS (speed) and possible PE (depending on what she puts out on the ice) but the Russian gals probably will bring better scores on non-jump TES like spins, and on PCS elements like CH AND IN.

I haven't paid attention to FW.

Perhaps the jumps are a wash between Liza and Gracie - Gracie's speed and explosiveness are evened out by Liza's transitions, and neither one of them is what I'd call a great artist on the ice. It might be close between the 2 of them ...

Gracie should get good GOE on her jumps vs. Julia's good GOE on spins. Julia might get higher PCS overall, which could be a deciding factor

bek
02-05-2012, 03:37 PM
To clarify more, I think that Gracie has an edge on the big elements, like the jumps, and on PCS elements like SS (speed) and possible PE (depending on what she puts out on the ice) but the Russian gals probably will bring better scores on non-jump TES like spins, and on PCS elements like CH AND IN.

I haven't paid attention to FW.

Perhaps the jumps are a wash between Liza and Gracie - Gracie's speed and explosiveness are evened out by Liza's transitions, and neither one of them is what I'd call a great artist on the ice. It might be close between the 2 of them ...

Gracie should get good GOE on her jumps vs. Julia's good GOE on spins. Julia might get higher PCS overall, which could be a deciding factor


Gracie has an edge on speed over Adelina? I don't know Adelina has been pretty praised for having incredible skating skills for her age. I think one would have to see them live. But speed and power is NOT a weakness Sotnikova has. Adelina's short program is jam packed with difficulty in the inbetweens as well. And while she flutzs Sotnikova's jumps are huge.

Julia as well has good speed/flow over the ice from those who have seen her live.

One could mention to Julia has yet to make a major mistake this year; something that can't be said for anyone else in the competition; including Gracie. As for P/E; I actually think that one of Gracie's weakeness IS Performance. I think all of the Russian girls are better performers; but all of them have also been in the spotlight longer. They should all get higher P/E especially Julia who has lovely lines/extension and is really a great performer. Tukt too is a good performer.

Frankly if Adelina went clean she really should win. I just think she's the least likely to go clean.

AliasJohnDoe
02-05-2012, 04:12 PM
Right now, Gracie and the 3 Russians are probably the medal threats at JW's. She is the only Junior lady that can keep up with them.
Gracie might have a slight edge on Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, and Lipnitskaya on TES, but their gap over her in PCS will probably be the winning factor

I thought Angela Wang looked good enough to compete with the Russian JR ladies. She was (6th) in the LP at Nats after a bad SP(16th), (8th) over-all. She can do 3z/3t and 3F/3t. I was hoping she was 5th or 6th at SR Nats and made the JR Worlds team. Besides Gracie, I believe she is another US lady to keep an eye on.

museksk8r
02-05-2012, 04:30 PM
She lacks artistry but her technique is SO good.That's all I have to say..And I said that SHE IS SIMILAR TO TUKT!I have nothing against "wonderbabies"...That's my opinion!

Glad you realize this. I was quite underwhelmed by her nationals exhibition skate. Artistically speaking, i think Gracie makes Liza look like Janet Lynn.