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Nekatiivi
01-30-2012, 07:49 AM
If you are in a need of a restaurant, you could use this on a smart phone: http://eat.fi/en/helsinki

It is very nice because you can see how previous diners have rated the restaurant and also what restaurants have their kitchen open at the moment.

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
01-30-2012, 11:04 AM
It's going to be REALLY cold this week. The latest forecasts say it's going to be as cold as -20-30 C on Thursday-Friday. I strongly recommend you pack some really winter-proof outerwear (quilted trousers and coat) and fleece clothing layer if you can. Don't even try to survive with a Central European style of "winter" clothing (=multiple layers of innerwear, wolly sweaters, scarves, but only a thin coat and jeans as outerwear) ... you'll get killed in no time if you venture outdoors!

On the other hand, keep in mind that all indoors spaces in Finland ARE warm and properly heated, no matter how cold it is outside, so you won't need to protect yourself from draught or coolness if you decide to stay indoors. The same goes for (most) buses and trains - they will be warm unless they are more than 20 years old. Also, the underground stations in Helsinki city centre are more or less warm because they are underground, but in the suburbs they are open-air.

Regardless of how cold it might be, if the sun is shining, it is really worthwhile to go somewhere outside the city - even only to the sea to have a walk on the ice - because the nature is likely to be extremely beautiful (and the snow and the scenery will be quite different from the Alps or wherever you Central Europeans get your snow experience from)!

:cold:

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
01-30-2012, 11:14 AM
... you'll get killed in no time if you venture outdoors!
Probably, this should have said "you'll kill yourself" rather than "you'll get killed". :shuffle:

Also, Laura Lepistö is going to perform (or at least show up) at a free outdoors(!) skating event at the Helsinki Olympic Stadium on Wednesday - to support Sauli Niinistö for president.
http://www.niinisto.fi/tapahtumat/
It's 5 to 7 pm, free of charge, "bring your own skates and warm clothing" :eek: , and you can meet with some Finnish top athletes and Mr. Niinistö himself.

Hanna
01-30-2012, 12:18 PM
Also, Laura Lepistö is going to perform (or at least show up) at a free outdoors(!) skating event at the Helsinki Olympic Stadium on Wednesday - to support Sauli Niinistö for president.

Ah Laura. :duh: Why did you get yourself involved in the campaign. First North Korea and now this. :duh:

skatak
01-31-2012, 06:58 PM
Thanks all for your comments !
I'll try to face the cold bravely. Thing is I will stay indoor thursday and friday, but will have to walk two blocks there. How Finns handle this ? I planned to put generic trousers and shoes, I don't see myself arriving at the place and changing clothes lool (even if meeting start around 8 am). Although I read it's not uncommon to bring shoes when you visit friends.

I definitely planned to go walk on the frozen sea ! That must be something.

What about taking the tram (3T ?) to go around the city in a warm environment (and, possibly no drunk guys in the middle of the day) ?

Do you think I should try sauna ? If you have good address, you're welcome :)


Probably, this should have said "you'll kill yourself" rather than "you'll get killed". :shuffle:

Also, Laura Lepistö is going to perform (or at least show up) at a free outdoors(!) skating event at the Helsinki Olympic Stadium on Wednesday - to support Sauli Niinistö for president.
http://www.niinisto.fi/tapahtumat/
It's 5 to 7 pm, free of charge, "bring your own skates and warm clothing" :eek: , and you can meet with some Finnish top athletes and Mr. Niinistö himself.

DAMN !!! My plan lands at... 7pm. and I could have brought my skates :(
And I guess the ceremony for Kiira's medal was today ?

Nekatiivi
01-31-2012, 08:40 PM
Thanks all for your comments !
I'll try to face the cold bravely. Thing is I will stay indoor thursday and friday, but will have to walk two blocks there. How Finns handle this ? I planned to put generic trousers and shoes, I don't see myself arriving at the place and changing clothes lool (even if meeting start around 8 am). Although I read it's not uncommon to bring shoes when you visit friends.


Well, normally Finns do leave do their deeds with only one set of clothes, even if it is very cold. :lol:

I think there are few very important points in proper winter clothing.

1. Shoes. Bring shoes with thick bottoms. Feet are one of the first places that start to go cold on low temperatures. Wear two pairs of socks. I would recommend thin woolen socks!

2. Proper hat. Warm and wind-proof hat warms like nothing else.

3. Jacket that is moderately wind, warmth and water proof. Take a jacket with a hood if possible.

4. Layers is the kay word in Finland too. With a proper jacket I only wear two layers, one tight and one loose.

Two blocks is not bad, I am sure you will be fine. :)

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
01-31-2012, 09:38 PM
I'll try to face the cold bravely. Thing is I will stay indoor thursday and friday, but will have to walk two blocks there. How Finns handle this ?

I don't care what people think anymore, when I go to work or a restaurant or a hotel I enter wearing my quilt overtrousers (I think I just invented a word?) and cold weather protection boots, and won't change until I'm somewhat defrosted. :cold:


What about taking the tram (3T ?) to go around the city in a warm environment (and, possibly no drunk guys in the middle of the day) ?
The 3T/3B tram is a good sightseeing route - but in this weather you will probably only see huge piles of snow stacked alongside the streets...


Do you think I should try sauna ? If you have good address, you're welcome :)
You definitely should! Probably your hotel has one. There are a couple of traditional public saunas in Helsinki, and all indoor swimming pools have saunas too. If it wasn't this cold, I would recommend any that is located by the sea or a lake and has a hole in the ice for winter swimming ;)


And I guess the ceremony for Kiira's medal was today ?
She was given flowers today in Tampere... during an intermission of her home club's hockey game. http://www.iltasanomat.fi/taitoluistelu/tappara-kukitti-em-hopeaa-voittaneen-kiiran/art-1288445988174.html
I haven't heard of any other ceremony.

skatak
01-31-2012, 10:30 PM
thanks again !

For the sauna, I am just wondering how the contact lenses will appreciate it... without them I am about lost, with them I fear they will stay somewhere in the sauna...
not even thinking about switching to glasses lol

Am taking for granted that the electric plugs are the same as in France. not time to adjust lol

Hanna
02-01-2012, 09:00 PM
For the sauna, I am just wondering how the contact lenses will appreciate it... without them I am about lost, with them I fear they will stay somewhere in the sauna...
not even thinking about switching to glasses lol

Am taking for granted that the electric plugs are the same as in France. not time to adjust lol

You should be fine with contacs in the sauna. Your eyes just might be a little bit drier afterwards so if you have eye drops, you might want to add a bit after your sauna experience. And don't leave them on for too long after being in the sauna. But I know lots of people who wear contacts to sauna without a problem.

Plugs are same, no worries. ;)

And yes, the 3T tramline is the proper tourist tramline indeed. You won't be the only one there, me thinks. :) And no worrying about drunken idiots either (well, I can't guarantee of course :P but seriously, I'm sure you'll be completely fine).

Today was the coldest day of the winter so far. :cold: BRRRRRRRRRRR freezing, completely freezing.

Hanna
02-01-2012, 09:05 PM
Oh and as for the saunas, this is considered the only "proper" public sauna in Helsinki as it is heated with wood. HOwever, it's very touristy. http://www.kotiharjunsauna.fi

If you settle for a less authentic experience, I'm pretty sure that your hotel also has one (like Ritti said).

skatak
02-01-2012, 10:52 PM
Yes ! Hotel has one ! Must be a touristic one though, but no pb. Eyes got a bit dry afterwars as you said. Airport-> taxi -> hotel -> sauna (alone :) ).
interesting experience, your spirit is fully awake but your body melts. Even more when putting enough water on the stone (which I did not the first time).

probably the biggest thermic chock in my life, from -20°C to + 80°C back to -20°C. kept my light jean to go out for dinner. I knew this would not be sufficient, but enough to go to the restaurant. Couldn't resist a walk at night afterwards, but it went a bit scary as I was feeling my thighs becoming colder and colder. I was wondering how long it can take to really freeze legs, my guess is 'not long by -20°C'. Back warm at the hotel, but still can feel the legs adjusting... ok I won't do it anymore... ! Other than that, normal shoes with two pairs of socks works fine. Feels a bit weird when your nose freezes though ;-)

From the plane :shoking: so many outdoor rinks ! With lights at night ! With a zamboni on it ! If Finnish skater train outside, I wonder why they did not sweep all the medals last year in Berne...

cholla
02-02-2012, 11:17 AM
Skatak ? IAMY ! :rofl:

Hanna
02-02-2012, 07:29 PM
Yes ! Hotel has one ! Must be a touristic one though, but no pb. Eyes got a bit dry afterwars as you said. Airport-> taxi -> hotel -> sauna (alone :) ).
interesting experience, your spirit is fully awake but your body melts. Even more when putting enough water on the stone (which I did not the first time).

probably the biggest thermic chock in my life, from -20°C to + 80°C back to -20°C. kept my light jean to go out for dinner. I knew this would not be sufficient, but enough to go to the restaurant. Couldn't resist a walk at night afterwards, but it went a bit scary as I was feeling my thighs becoming colder and colder. I was wondering how long it can take to really freeze legs, my guess is 'not long by -20°C'. Back warm at the hotel, but still can feel the legs adjusting... ok I won't do it anymore... ! Other than that, normal shoes with two pairs of socks works fine. Feels a bit weird when your nose freezes though ;-)

From the plane :shoking: so many outdoor rinks ! With lights at night ! With a zamboni on it ! If Finnish skater train outside, I wonder why they did not sweep all the medals last year in Berne...

Yes you have to throw enough water on the stones. ;) It's called 'heittää löylyä'. I find 75 C the perfect sauna temperature. It's not too pleasant if it's much hotter.

And the 100 C difference between outside and the sauna is pretty mindblowing. Today was even colder than yesterday. FREEZING. It was -20 in the morning when I first left my apartment. It was impossible to stay outside for longer than 10 minutes at a time.

And yes, when it's below zero, the outdoor rinks are everywhere. The ice quality is not the best on all of them but it is lovely to have so many. :) E.g. the closest one to me is a 3-minute walk away.

Oh and your nose hair freezing is definitely a funny feeling. :lol:

I hope you're enjoying it despite the horror :cold:.

skatak
02-02-2012, 08:46 PM
Skatak ? IAMY ! :rofl:

ROTFL
which one of us is winning the competition of lower temperature ? seems it stuck to -20°C all day...

Felt a bit 'warmer' now as there was less wind than in the morning. but it's only in different spot, wind blowing is something. night pictures are all blurry, for the time of exposition required I can't stay still long enough, and the seat where I could put my camera on in public park are burried under snow (will not try going knee deep in the snow just for a pic).


Yes you have to throw enough water on the stones. ;) It's called 'heittää löylyä'. I find 75 C the perfect sauna temperature. It's not too pleasant if it's much hotter.

And the 100 C difference between outside and the sauna is pretty mindblowing. Today was even colder than yesterday. FREEZING. It was -20 in the morning when I first left my apartment. It was impossible to stay outside for longer than 10 minutes at a time.

And yes, when it's below zero, the outdoor rinks are everywhere. The ice quality is not the best on all of them but it is lovely to have so many. :) E.g. the closest one to me is a 3-minute walk away.

Oh and your nose hair freezing is definitely a funny feeling. :lol:

I hope you're enjoying it despite the horror :cold:.

I am just wondering if it was clever to plan to stay over the week-end here, seems I've landed in the coldest moment of the year :rofl:
for now it's about ok as I stay indoor all day, but this week end the plan it to visit a bit. Maybe it will end in short trip from cafe to cafe.
looking at the temperature map over Finland and seeing -31°C is quite an experience, it feels completely hyperreal...
Going back to France on Monday with -5°C will feel like summer :D

lapland cheese cake is ... well ... interesting. Don't know how cloudberry translates in French but it's to dye for.

IDC a.k.a. Ritti
02-03-2012, 12:01 PM
According to a news article I just read, Helsinki Regional Transport Authority (HSL) advises people to walk rather than wait for trams - because "no form of traffic is running flowingly". (It was -19 °C then.)

A friend of mine who is working in Espoo just said that the scenery outside is completely white, even the air. :eek:

By noon, 80 traffic accidents had happened in Helsinki today.
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2012/02/snowy_snarl-ups_to_start_weekend_3228896.html

Skatak, its not only that you came to Finland at the coldest moment of the year... this is waaay beyond normal.

Is it this you ate? If it made a creaking sound when chewing, then it probably was...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leip%C3%A4juusto