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newbatgirl
01-27-2012, 12:35 AM
The Hollywood Reporter said today (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/dance-moms-lifetime-ice-moms-285090) that the production company that produces the Lifetime show Dance Moms is working on Ice Moms.

This upsets me because I think the show Dance Moms is exploitative and trashy. That's my opinion, of course, and I admit to being somewhat biased because I do have a daughter involved in dance.

And I really don't like they idea of them applying what they have done to the reputation of dance to skating.

Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Sylvia
01-27-2012, 01:07 AM
This link was posted in the Ice Moms thread in GSD:

http://m.deadline.com/2012/01/lifetime-expands-dance-moms-franchise-to-figure-skating/

GarrAarghHrumph
01-27-2012, 01:18 AM
"The focal point of Ice Moms will be the Dearborn, Michigan-based figure skating coaching duo of Laurie Vigilante and Adam Schmidt..."

Anyone familiar with these coaches?

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/26/lifetime-developing-new-docuseries-ice-moms/117705/

GarrAarghHrumph
01-27-2012, 01:30 AM
I've tried looking them up, to see what type of experience they might have as coaches.

Laura Vigilante appears to have coached students to Junior Nationals:
http://www.vigilantehockeycamps.com/programs.html

She may coach part time, and be a full-time teacher.

Adam Schmidt is a pretty common name, so he's harder to do a quick search on. I did see an Adam Schmidt as a coach in California. Another who coaches hockey somewhere. Another who is or was a skater. Like, a zillion Adam Schmidts. ;)

AndyWarhol
01-27-2012, 07:39 AM
i think this will be good for skating. the public like trashy rubbish shows.

anything that draws attention to skating is good IMH

Sk8Fan2000
01-31-2012, 08:47 AM
The old coaching team in Detroit? If that's them; than they're crazy!!!
Laurie and Adam had a few young girls at JN's from what I remember. I know Adam Schmidt skated under a different last name before getting married and moving to LA. Also, after researching him found out he skated professionally after a mediocre national skating career; and was a common fixture on the European skating scene.
I saw him at US Nationals this week but wasn't able to get near him to investigate-he was kept pretty secluded because rumor has it: US figure skating isn't sponsoring this show!
Laurie, if I remember correctly is a school teacher as well as a coach so I'm surprised she'd be willing to jeopardize her teaching job to exploit children.
I wonder how it's all to play out....

just wondering
01-31-2012, 06:46 PM
Do you think it is ISI-based rather than USFS-based? ISI comps are run differently than USFS and might lend themselves more easily to tv-style scripted guidance from the participants.

skatemommy
01-31-2012, 06:48 PM
My relatives in that area train elsewhere...

newbatgirl
02-01-2012, 01:28 AM
The old coaching team in Detroit? If that's them; than they're crazy!!!
Laurie and Adam had a few young girls at JN's from what I remember. I know Adam Schmidt skated under a different last name before getting married and moving to LA. Also, after researching him found out he skated professionally after a mediocre national skating career; and was a common fixture on the European skating scene.
I saw him at US Nationals this week but wasn't able to get near him to investigate-he was kept pretty secluded because rumor has it: US figure skating isn't sponsoring this show!
Laurie, if I remember correctly is a school teacher as well as a coach so I'm surprised she'd be willing to jeopardize her teaching job to exploit children.
I wonder how it's all to play out....

Thanks for the info.

Not surprised USFS is not touching this. The production company behind this does not have a good rep at this point. Many legitimate dance competitions (I know of almost 30) now refuse to let the Dance Moms cameras into their events. I have heard that the production company has resorted to staging events specifically for their filming because they can't get the footage any other way.

manleywoman
02-01-2012, 02:53 AM
^Sort of like the Tara Modlin events featuring Johnny that have his camera crew following.

Sk8Fan2000
02-01-2012, 06:47 AM
Found them on Facebook:

Laurie: Laura vigilante

Adam:he has two and was tricky to find because it's under: Adam E. Schmidt
Also, has a fan page: Adam E. Schmidt (AdamVIP) Fan Page, which has gone dark since the show press has gone public.


Also heard that Laurie isn't even coaching in Dearborn & bombshell:Adam doesn't even live in Michigan, but is currently living and teaching a team of skaters in California. & Neither Laurie or Adam will be skating in Dearborn, MI as previously stated!

After some serious digging I found a UK tabloid magazine which featured a scandal story involving adam and his skating management, but today it's now mysteriously gone.. ???????

What's going on with this show?????????

Rochelle
02-01-2012, 04:41 PM
I had the impression that anyone participating in this would loose US Figure Skating (USFS) eligibility. I wonder if that also means PSA eligibility? And what is ISI's stance on it? And if it's ISI, just how competitive are these kids?

I also just question any coach -- and their students / parents of students of said coach -- that would agree to do such a show under the premise that it's the Dance Mom's production company. It's going to be edited (perhaps even staged) to be drama, drama, drama focused.

Seriously -- how is that going to get any coach who participates any future business if they aren't already well established? It seems like such an ethical gamble for their career... :-/. I believe skaters/parents definitely aren't paid. I assume coaches might not be paid, either.

At least with Dance Mom's the coach is one whose dance students bring home significant national championships, etc. (if I'm understanding correctly).

Wyliefan
02-01-2012, 04:52 PM
Coincidentally, I caught about five minutes of Dance Moms last night for the first time, and wanted to vomit.

I hope this new one falls through. The less of that crap that's out there, the better off we all are.

MacombSk8rMom
02-04-2012, 02:42 AM
The 'coach' in Dance Moms makes several basic mistakes that make me cringe:
1) Derogatory remarks to dancers in front of other dancers/moms
2) Poor role model - obese, vile
3) Chews out dancers right before they have to dance
4) Letting moms hang out with the dancers right before they perform

Holley Calmes
02-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Coincidentally, I caught about five minutes of Dance Moms last night for the first time, and wanted to vomit.

I hope this new one falls through. The less of that crap that's out there, the better off we all are.

I won't watch Dance Moms because it's so deogatory of the industry. However (and sorry I'm repeating myself-I posted this on another thread too) I found out recently that a sponsor of my ballet company, an orthopedist, had been one of this woman's dancers and attended that school from early childhood to high school graduation. Good thing I kept my mouth shut when the subject came up, because I would've put my foot in it. This doctor said that the head teacher is a wonderful person, didn't behave like that in her experience, and was fantastic to dance for. She said the whole experience was pretty much opposite of what's on TV.

Sad that this school and its teacher will let reality TV turn them into something very negative that they aren't in real life, according to my friend.