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Rex
01-26-2012, 04:30 PM
Apparently it happened in her office (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/woman-accuses-greg-kelly-son-police-comissioner-raping-law-office-article-1.1012172)


The woman told cops she had drinks with Kelly, 43, at the South Street Seaport Oct. 8 before he sexually assaulted her in the law office where she worked, sources said.

The accuser, who is around 30, did not report the alleged assault until Tuesday night, when she walked into the 13th Precinct stationhouse and gave her account, sources said.
I know that they like to make fun of him a lot on E! Channel's The Soup, and he's the son of the police commissioner Raymond Kelly. He does seem rather uptight and odd on his show, although I know that does not determine if he's a rapist or not.

Aceon6
01-26-2012, 04:37 PM
Something smells fishy. I'd expect someone who works in a law office to report it right away, regardless of the status of the perp.

Beefcake
01-26-2012, 04:39 PM
Three months to report the "assault" will make things tough for the woman. She said, he said, with the results likely being just the new stain on his reputation.

I'll get flak for this, and I only know what is in that article ... but I have to wonder if this was post-coital regret. Also wonder what, besides sex, would be the purpose of bringing a guy you'd been drinking with from the bar to one's [conveniently nearby?] office after-hours. (Note: I'm not saying "she asked for it," just dissecting the "set-up".)

Rex
01-26-2012, 04:55 PM
Something smells fishy. I'd expect someone who works in a law office to report it right away, regardless of the status of the perp.


Three months to report the "assault" will make things tough for the woman. She said, he said, with the results likely being just the new stain on his reputation.

I'll get flak for this, and I only know what is in that article ... but I have to wonder if this was post-coital regret. Also wonder what, besides sex, would be the purpose of bringing a guy you'd been drinking with from the bar to one's [conveniently nearby?] office after-hours. (Note: I'm not saying "she asked for it," just dissecting the "set-up".)

But why was he a no-show at his TV gig??

BigB08822
01-26-2012, 05:51 PM
But why was he a no-show at his TV gig??

That may have not been his decision. He may have been informed by his superiors to stay home until this is settled.

It sounds very very fishy. 3 months!? I hope she is telling the truth because if not she has permanently hurt his reputation and that is a shame.

Rex
01-26-2012, 06:22 PM
It sounds very very fishy. 3 months!? I hope she is telling the truth because if not she has permanently hurt his reputation and that is a shame.
Even when someone is not guilty, the stigma of the accusation remains.

Karina1974
01-26-2012, 08:08 PM
Also wonder what, besides sex, would be the purpose of bringing a guy you'd been drinking with from the bar to one's [conveniently nearby?] office after-hours. (Note: I'm not saying "she asked for it," just dissecting the "set-up".)

Not to mention "going out for drinks" with someone you've only just met, according to the article.


The woman, a paralegal, told cops she met Kelly, 43, on the street and had drinks with him at the South Street Seaport on Oct. 8.

They went back to her law office because her boyfriend was home, and that’s where she claims she was assaulted, sources said.

I don't take stories like this seriously anymore. What the hell did she think was going to happen when they went to her office after a round of drinks and "because her boyfriend was home" ... they were just going to chat and play cards or something?

Cheylana
01-26-2012, 08:16 PM
It sounds very very fishy. 3 months!? I hope she is telling the truth because if not she has permanently hurt his reputation and that is a shame.
Perhaps he threatened her... or maybe she was in denial about the fact that it was rape. Nobody likes to believe they are a victim, especially professional women trying to get ahead in their careers. The first instinct for many raped women is to try to forget it happened. Then, three months later, they realize they can't forget, or maybe they are worried the guy is doing it to other women, so they try to do something about it. It's faaar from ideal to wait three months (lost evidence and all that), but it happens a lot.

Civic
01-27-2012, 01:35 AM
Not to mention "going out for drinks" with someone you've only just met, according to the article.



I don't take stories like this seriously anymore. What the hell did she think was going to happen when they went to her office after a round of drinks and "because her boyfriend was home" ... they were just going to chat and play cards or something?
Sigh...attitudes like the above are part of the problem, imo. Who gives a feck why she took him to her office? All that matters is that he didn't take no for an answer. At least this is what she is alleging.

orbitz
01-27-2012, 01:48 AM
Perhaps he threatened her... or maybe she was in denial about the fact that it was rape. Nobody likes to believe they are a victim, especially professional women trying to get ahead in their careers. The first instinct for many raped women is to try to forget it happened. Then, three months later, they realize they can't forget, or maybe they are worried the guy is doing it to other women, so they try to do something about it. It's faaar from ideal to wait three months (lost evidence and all that), but it happens a lot.

Or maybe she wanted a relationship. He said 'No', and now she's getting her revenge. The article said that she got pregnant from the encounter (or encounters) with Greg and had an abortion. So another angle could be that she wanted him to help take care of the baby, he said no, and she got angry. Blah, blah, blah .....

The point is no one knows the truths right now. I'm definitely not going to automatically believe anyone who claims to be raped 3 months after the supposed fact.

BigB08822
01-27-2012, 01:48 AM
No one is blaming the victim here. Just pointing out that the facts, as we currently know them, bring up a question about the validity of the claims. I wonder if she knew who he was? Do you think it is possible she realized after that he was a local celebrity and could be trying to take advantage of that? Waiting 3 months, go for drinks with a stranger, already had a boyfriend, took him back to her office because she couldn't take him home, he is a local celebrity. All of these things make me question her accusations and if this goes to trial I am sure a jury would have the same reservations. None of that means she is to blame if she is telling the truth.

Cheylana
01-27-2012, 08:14 AM
Or maybe she wanted a relationship. He said 'No', and now she's getting her revenge. The article said that she got pregnant from the encounter (or encounters) with Greg and had an abortion. So another angle could be that she wanted him to help take care of the baby, he said no, and she got angry. Blah, blah, blah .....

The point is no one knows the truths right now. I'm definitely not going to automatically believe anyone who claims to be raped 3 months after the supposed fact.
I didn't say you automatically have to believe the alleged victim, but this thread so far contains a flurry of messages doubting the woman's story, and saying how could she have waited three months, and I was just trying to balance it out with some theories that might support her story, even though she waited three months and all that.

manhn
01-27-2012, 08:19 AM
No one is blaming the victim here.

That's crap.

Karina1974
01-27-2012, 12:28 PM
Sigh...attitudes like the above are part of the problem, imo. Who gives a feck why she took him to her office?

I disagree. You are the one who doesn't "get it."

Obviously you weren't raised to think about the consequences of your actions BEFORE commencing said actions, such as putting onesself, as this woman did, in a situation that that could well turn out to be compromising for her - going out for drinks with a man she didn't even know beforehand, and then going someplace private when she didn't have the slightest clue whether or not she should be putting her trust in him.

In addition, whatever conversation and interacting they were doing could have been done right there at the bar where they were having the drinks - in public and in plain sight of whoever else was in the establishment. There's only one type of interaction between two people that "has to" (decency laws and all) be done in private, and that's of the sexual kind. Which leads me to believe that this encounter was more consensual than she is letting on.

oleada
01-27-2012, 02:40 PM
Sigh...attitudes like the above are part of the problem, imo. Who gives a feck why she took him to her office? All that matters is that he didn't take no for an answer. At least this is what she is alleging.

Agreed


No one is blaming the victim here. J

Except, yes, they are.


I didn't say you automatically have to believe the alleged victim, but this thread so far contains a flurry of messages doubting the woman's story, and saying how could she have waited three months, and I was just trying to balance it out with some theories that might support her story, even though she waited three months and all that.

There are so many reasons rape victims could have waited for so long. Rape is extremely traumatic event. There's tons of self-blame and denial going on. It's also very difficult for some victims to able to tell their story after it happens.