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Sylvia
04-21-2012, 01:40 AM
Speaking generally, I don't think any of us who are not personally involved with a team can truly know whether or not it was an "unwise decision" to split.

13KJC13
04-21-2012, 02:10 AM
Speaking generally, I don't think any of us who are not personally involved with a team can truly know whether or not it was an "unwise decision" to split.

^THIS!!!

NorthernDancers
04-21-2012, 02:48 AM
Speaking generally, I don't think any of us who are not personally involved with a team can truly know whether or not it was an "unwise decision" to split.

Let me clarify....it's an unwise decision if one is serious about achieving a dream of a successful pairs skating career. The podiums were in sight, and she walked away from it. The odds of finding the kind of partnership she had are very long, and she is not likely to have all this ever again. If that is not what she wanted, then fine. But that doesn't compute for me after all kinds of effort and money she must have put into the sport so far.

Sylvia
04-21-2012, 03:25 AM
But it doesn't have to "compute" for you or for me.

julieann
04-21-2012, 03:28 AM
Well, that's a really unwise decision on her part. She's pretty much killed her future career in this sport. She could have had a shot at 2014 and 2018. She could have won Junior Worlds next season. She was skating with a really great skater and partner. People look a lifetime for that kind of partnership. I can't see how many will take her seriously going forward. Whoever is advising her needs to give their head(s) a serious shake. They have caused her career irreparable damage. I also have to wonder about the Barrie coaches. If no one else can bother to speak the truth to this girl and those around her, at least they should have tried to keep the winning team together, even if it means not gaining a student. Maybe they did. I hope they did.

I really think you are being overly dramatic. Killed her future in this sport? :rofl: A few jr medals and a 7th a jr worlds doesn't a career make. She had no shot at the 2014 Olympics the competition in Canadian pairs is too high. 2018 perhaps but if they weren't happy then move on. Partners come and go with most pairs having at least three.

shutterbug
04-21-2012, 04:42 AM
Let me clarify....it's an unwise decision if one is serious about achieving a dream of a successful pairs skating career. The podiums were in sight, and she walked away from it. The odds of finding the kind of partnership she had are very long, and she is not likely to have all this ever again. If that is not what she wanted, then fine. But that doesn't compute for me after all kinds of effort and money she must have put into the sport so far.

FWIW, I don't think anyone on Team Bobak is happy about the split. Something major must have happened.

blademate
04-21-2012, 04:46 AM
Originally Posted by NorthernDancers
Well, that's a really unwise decision on her part. She's pretty much killed her future career in this sport. She could have had a shot at 2014 and 2018. She could have won Junior Worlds next season. She was skating with a really great skater and partner. People look a lifetime for that kind of partnership. I can't see how many will take her seriously going forward. Whoever is advising her needs to give their head(s) a serious shake. They have caused her career irreparable damage. I also have to wonder about the Barrie coaches. If no one else can bother to speak the truth to this girl and those around her, at least they should have tried to keep the winning team together, even if it means not gaining a student. Maybe they did. I hope they did.

From all I know, Katie is a very bright young lady. Do you think she does not know that with Ian she was heading for a lot of success this season, and possibly beyond? They would have been in line for 2 JGPS, 1 SGP, probably the JGPF again, a top 5 finish at Nats and Junior Worlds. These are opportunities most skaters would KILL for.

In my opinion, something must have been VERY wrong with the partnership and possibly her training environment for her to just walk away from all that.

NorthernDancers
04-21-2012, 06:06 AM
But it doesn't have to "compute" for you or for me.

And that's a great point. The scientist in me always looks to find the sense in things. And I need to remind myself that some things just won't make sense.

NorthernDancers
04-21-2012, 06:16 AM
I really think you are being overly dramatic. Killed her future in this sport? :rofl: A few jr medals and a 7th a jr worlds doesn't a career make. She had no shot at the 2014 Olympics the competition in Canadian pairs is too high. 2018 perhaps but if they weren't happy then move on. Partners come and go with most pairs having at least three.

There are only a few Canadian pair teams in recent (sort of) memory that really struck me as having an intangible "it" factor, something really special. Underhill/Martini, Sale/Pelletier, Dube/Davison. I'd put Bobak/Beharry as also having that "it" factor. With D/R and MT/M winning 3 spots for the Olympics at worlds next year, I could see Bobak/Beharry with the 3rd spot. Absolutely possible.

julieann
04-21-2012, 07:06 AM
There are only a few Canadian pair teams in recent (sort of) memory that really struck me as having an intangible "it" factor, something really special. Underhill/Martini, Sale/Pelletier, Dube/Davison. I'd put Bobak/Beharry as also having that "it" factor. With D/R and MT/M winning 3 spots for the Olympics at worlds next year, I could see Bobak/Beharry with the 3rd spot. Absolutely possible.

The judges at the last Canadian Nationals disagree with you.

Dave of the North
04-21-2012, 01:05 PM
Whatever the reason for the split (assuming its confirmed, and assuming they both continue in pairs), who are the potential partners for them?

Beharry - Seguin? Jones? Purich?

Bobak - ?? Schulz?

Proustable
04-21-2012, 01:27 PM
The judges at the last Canadian Nationals disagree with you.

I'm not sure what this means. B/B competed juniors and destroyed the competition. Their scores would have placed them top five at senior nationals. I could imagine them sneaking into bronze in the 13/14 season.

I'll wait until one is on Icepartner search or something before really believing this, though.

love_skate2011
04-21-2012, 01:31 PM
Bobak/Beharry have split ? :confused:
that was random..

but then again they said they were planning on staying Juniors,
something must have happened between them/partnership wise.

shame one less competition for D/D for next juniors season :(

Pratfall
04-21-2012, 09:09 PM
:eek::( I'm completely stunned..What the..?

I'm voting for an intervention, too. Bring in Jose Picard to shake her finger at someone.. someone do something !

MissIzzy
04-22-2012, 01:22 AM
On second thought, post deleted.