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Beefcake
01-24-2012, 05:16 PM
Echoing the cheers for Melissa McCarthy! :cheer: Her turn hosting SNL was a hoot too! She is sooo fabulously talented.
...and :cheer2: Kristin Wiig for Original Screenplay! I'm so glad these two and Bridesmaids are getting recognition.
Ah, I'm torn. I'm :cheer: about comedy getting some Oscar nom love.

But, c'mon, if you swapped out the genders of all the cast in Bridesmaids, you'd have had :shuffle: the EXACT SAME sophomoric rowdy, bawdy, horny-males-going-wild-but-eventually-learning-lessons movie that we've all seen dozens of times. Hey, it's "The Hangover II" as it should have been done! Melissa would have received the same begrudging kudos (but only a GG nom) as the Vince Vaughns of the world, and the screenplay's nomination would have come in the MTV Movie Awards versus the Academy Awards.

Beefcake
01-24-2012, 05:19 PM
:blah: The excrement that was "Kung Fu Panda II" nominated over anything. Even more reason to wuzrob "... Tin Tin", even though I've not seen the latter yet.



:confused: So weird, re: just the two original song nominations.
:watch: Elton's and/or David's impending comments on this situation.


ETA :P:

... so was little Fassbender.
Er, I saw "Shame" (loved it!), but I certainly didn't see a little Fassbender. ;)

Jenny
01-24-2012, 05:26 PM
:confused: So weird, re: just the two original song nominations.
:watch: Elton's and/or David's impending comments on this situation.

Didn't even notice that! One wonders if after the Golden Globes, the Academy decided to reduce the nominees to two to avoid Furnish's :drama: or Madonna having another opportunity to give a Best Picture acceptance speech for Best Song.

Mind you, now we'll likely be subjected to Jason Segal, Jesse Eisenberg, Anne Hathaway and Jamie Foxx singing during the broadcast :scream:

Vash01
01-24-2012, 05:34 PM
It's in English. However, last year's nominee Javier Bardem's Biutiful was in Spanish.


Bardem also got a nomination in the past for the movie with ocean or sea in its title; he played a quadriplegic in it. It was an awesome performance, but it was in Spanish. No matter how brilliant he is, I think there must have been other performances in other languages that were brilliant but were not nominated. Same about the Brazilian actress that was nominated for a best lead actress (why all this love for Brazil?). The pool becomes too big when they pick someone from a non-English movie. IMO it will be more fair when the boundaries are clearly defined, and not just occasionally broken.

genevieve
01-24-2012, 05:39 PM
wow, that is a refreshing list of nominees!

I'm sorry for Leonardo DiCaprio, Michael Fassbender and Shailene Woodley (and to a lesser extent Tilda Swinton - but mostly because I want to see her amazing fashion sense on display on Oscars night)...but some very nice surprises! :cheer2:

Also just a strong year overall. I think George Clooney will win (and he was fantastic in The Descendants...and I love his acceptance speeches), but I would really really love for Jean Dujardin to pull off an upset. I also want The Artist to win Best Picture :inavoid:

So torn for Best Actress - Viola Davis was amazing, but I would love Glenn Close to get an Oscar. Would be especially nice for her to win for a project that she's carried from stage show to screen over decades. I notice she didn't get a song nom tho ;) (and THANK TPTB that neither Elton John nor Madonna were nominated!)

the only film I've seen from the Supporting Actor list is Beginners - I think Christopher Plummer has this one in the bag, but I'd like to see some of the other films. I heard that both Nick Nolte and Max von Sydow were great, but their films haven't been on my must-see list :shuffle:

Is it Oscar night yet?!?! :glamor:

DarrellH
01-24-2012, 05:41 PM
Isn't there some sort of restriction on the best song qualification? It can't be added on to the end while the credits role, or something like that? I think that's what hurt Brokeback Mountain. It was winning best song at most of the other award shows, but wasn't even nommed for the Oscar.

What happened to Madonna's song she won a Globe for this year?

Wyliefan
01-24-2012, 05:59 PM
Bardem also got a nomination in the past for the movie with ocean or sea in its title; he played a quadriplegic in it.

I read that wrong, and thought, "When was there a category for Best Movie with Ocean or Sea in Its Title??"

:o

Jenny
01-24-2012, 05:59 PM
Isn't there some sort of restriction on the best song qualification? It can't be added on to the end while the credits role, or something like that? I think that's what hurt Brokeback Mountain. It was winning best song at most of the other award shows, but wasn't even nommed for the Oscar.

Thought I heard something about that too. Another rule is that the song cannot appear on another CD - which is why Springsteen's song for The Wrestler was not nominated. He chose to put it on his own CD rather than go for the nomination (and since he already has an Oscar, why not).

ETA - here's an extract for the official rules (my bold):


B. Original Song:
An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for
the motion picture. There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not
necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as
the first music cue in the end credits.

II. ELIGIBILITY
A. The work must be created specifically for the eligible feature-length motion picture.
B. The work must be the result of a creative interaction between the filmmaker(s) and the composer(s)
and/or songwriter(s) who have been engaged to work directly on the motion picture.
C. The work’s eligibility shall be evaluated on its effectiveness, craftsmanship, creative substance and
relevance to the dramatic whole.
D. The work must be recorded for use in the motion picture prior to any other usage, including public
performance or exploitation through any media whatsoever.
E. Only the principal composer(s) or songwriter(s) responsible for the conception and execution of
the work as a whole shall be eligible for an award.

orbitz
01-24-2012, 06:16 PM
Another snub - and I understand she campaigned long and hard for it - is Angelina Jolie's In the Land of Blood and Honey. As director/writer/producer she was hoping for a nomination for Best Foreign Language Film.

I don't see it as a snub. Jolie made a small and difficult film that few people in
America will see. The film also wasn't universally praised, so I don't think there was any big expectation that it would be nominated.



Maybe she should have done something in English, because historically, Oscar often awards actors who direct.

She did film a version of LOBAH in English.

made_in_canada
01-24-2012, 06:16 PM
Yay Melissa McCarthy!!!! It's rerfreshing to see someone recognized for an outstanding comedic performance :cheer2:

I'm shocked to see that! Awesome!

caseyedwards
01-24-2012, 06:19 PM
Bardem also got a nomination in the past for the movie with ocean or sea in its title; he played a quadriplegic in it. It was an awesome performance, but it was in Spanish. No matter how brilliant he is, I think there must have been other performances in other languages that were brilliant but were not nominated. Same about the Brazilian actress that was nominated for a best lead actress (why all this love for Brazil?). The pool becomes too big when they pick someone from a non-English movie. IMO it will be more fair when the boundaries are clearly defined, and not just occasionally broken.

He was not nominated for that though it did win foregin film.

olympic
01-24-2012, 06:21 PM
Wah, no Michael Fassbender in the list :fragile:. Out of the nominees I've seen just Brad Pitt's Moneyball and I really can't see all the fuss about it and I <3 Brad Pitt usually.



Michael Fassbender being left off is horrible in my opinion. His was the best male performance I saw this year.....


No Fassbender and no Di Caprio in best male?

Shame




... so was little Fassbender.


We've got a sizable group. Let's picket the MPAA ;)

Jenny
01-24-2012, 06:25 PM
The film also wasn't universally praised, so I don't think there was any big expectation that it would be nominated.

Except by Angelina :P

agalisgv
01-24-2012, 06:31 PM
I'm glad to see A Separation was nominated for foreign film. I'm surprised it's also nominated for best original sceenplay as well. Is that what you were talking about, Vash, about not having foreign films in the other categories? I didn't realize that happened.

overedge
01-24-2012, 07:22 PM
How on earth did Tin-Tin not get a nomination for best animated film!?!?! .


Because it sucked?