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smarts1
02-08-2012, 02:42 AM
^ My biggest question still is... what happened to the step sequence??? It was one of the nicest ones she's ever done...

IceAlisa
02-08-2012, 03:23 AM
Yup, that's a good question.

Sasha'sSpins
02-08-2012, 08:07 AM
2012 US Nationals Backstage & Behind the Scenes Senior Ladies video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXX91mj1wao

Thanks for the link! That was intense! Loved it! :D

Wow, I think you can really tell the difference in conditioning with Alissa and Ashley versus Mirai. Just their arms alone look so toned and defined compared to Nagasu who is certainly not overweight but perhaps not in prime condition like at the Olympics. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what it looks like to me.

BigB08822
02-08-2012, 08:48 AM
Did she ever compete that step sequence or did it never make it to competition? Maybe it didn't get the levels they thought, either during feedback or during early competition? Or maybe they had to move the step sequence and then it didn't fit with the music so they had to replan it. Surely there was a good reason.

olympic
02-08-2012, 12:53 PM
This might be good for her:

3lutz2toe
3flip
3loop2toe2loop
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2axel - 2axel
3lutz
3loop
3toe

Essentially her 2010 layout. Her axel looks better now.

Even during her more dismal performances this year, she was able to do a 3 jump combo and 2 3 loops in the 2d half of the program, so I'd personally stick them there.

A 2x seq. might work actually. I think a 2d 2x would squeeze out another point or 2 over a 2toe

smarts1
02-08-2012, 01:06 PM
Did she ever compete that step sequence or did it never make it to competition? Maybe it didn't get the levels they thought, either during feedback or during early competition? Or maybe they had to move the step sequence and then it didn't fit with the music so they had to replan it. Surely there was a good reason.

She NEVER competed with that step sequence. The only reason why we know about it is because she put it in that video. Mills gives us one reason why she might not do it, and that might bethat she wasn't coverage enough ice with it...

smarts1
02-08-2012, 01:07 PM
Even during her more dismal performances this year, she was able to do a 3 jump combo and 2 3 loops in the 2d half of the program, so I'd personally stick them there.

A 2x seq. might work actually. I think a 2d 2x would squeeze out another point or 2 over a 2toe

Sequences don't give you that many points over a combo. The 2x sequence gives you an extra 0.68 points compared to a 2x-2t.

olympic
02-08-2012, 02:21 PM
Sequences don't give you that many points over a combo. The 2x sequence gives you an extra 0.68 points compared to a 2x-2t.

yeah - I wasn't sure of the actual point totals, but I knew it was miniscule. I was surprised it was worth so little.

Coco
02-08-2012, 07:14 PM
I agree with Olympic about the loops in the 2nd 1/2. Perhaps a 2z3toe as her 3rd pass?

smarts1
02-09-2012, 12:28 AM
Here's an article about Ashley today on Icenetwork.

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120207&content_id=26597658&vkey=ice_news

olympic
02-09-2012, 01:00 PM
Here's an article about Ashley today on Icenetwork.

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120207&content_id=26597658&vkey=ice_news

Interesting -

Took the 3f-3t out of the SP at Nats because no one was skating lights out, but understands she will need it at Worlds ...

smarts1
02-09-2012, 01:08 PM
^ I think the bigger reason was to just go clean as opposed to risk it. Ashley (I think) is kind of superstitious, so I think the goal was to just skate a clean SP at Nationals after missing it for three seasons in a row. I wonder if she'll do it for 4CC though...

kwanatic
02-09-2012, 02:09 PM
I'm really proud of Ashley. I was never a fan of hers but she's turned me around this season. I really admire determination and hard work; that earns people respect in my eyes. That's why I admire her for what she's done this year. There is visible improvement to her skating. I really think she's got the whole package this year: the coach, choreography, programs, costume and attitude...so far it's paying off well. I also admire her confidence. That's key to being a champion; you have to believe you can do it, not doubt yourself. Because she speaks about it quite a bit, sometimes she comes off as cocky...but I can tell the difference now. I'm proud of her and I hope she skates well at 4CC and worlds.

orbitz
02-09-2012, 03:32 PM
I'm surprised that people in general liked Ashley's programs. I didn't think the LP was memorable at all, and she didn't deliver a knock-out performance. Ashley won for delivering two competent performances and because the skaters ahead of her faltered.

berthesghost
02-09-2012, 04:04 PM
^ I think Ashley was very noticeably repackaged by nicks this year, and both her programs seem to have a different look than what most us skaters are putting out. I mean, if we're judging "forgettable" LPs this season, mirai and Alissa take gold and silver. Those weird arm movements during Ashley's spiral alone get her bronze at best ine the "blah, forgettable LPs" comp.