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Jot the Dot Dot
01-05-2012, 03:43 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8989392/Scientology-in-feud-over-leader.html The God Xenu cannot be pleased.

Aussie Willy
01-05-2012, 04:16 AM
About time someone from Scientology admitted it. Vile corrupt so-called "religion".

Scintillation
01-05-2012, 04:19 AM
Um, I'm sorry, it's become a hollow money-making machine? Isn't that what it's always been, along with shady and disturbing?

BigB08822
01-05-2012, 05:22 AM
I don't care who it offends, Scientology is not a religion, it is a science fiction book happening in real life! The founder was a darn science fiction author for goodness sake. They say you need to give lots of money to the Church before the big message is revealed. It is such an obvious scam but people actually fall for it. I can not fathom how someone hears this stuff and thinks it sounds true and like something they want to believe in. How does that work? People are this stupid???

NinjaTurtles
01-05-2012, 02:35 PM
I can not fathom how someone hears this stuff and thinks it sounds true and like something they want to believe in. How does that work? People are this stupid???

On paper it can seem quite odd that new and joining members of Scientology believe the stories regarding Xenu. However, that's not how they're first introduced to Scientology and it's quite sometime before they get to that point. For all of Scientology's very vocal distaste for Psychology and Psychiatry, the process of auditing borrows heavily from Freudian and Jungian psychoanalysis.

As such, I don't find it too odd that people get deeply involved with Scientology after they learn about/experience an auditing session. All of that intense self reflection and actualization seems like a very good method of bringing in those who may be depressed or existentially curious. If we're operating under the premise that Scientology is indeed a deliberate and insidious cult organization, I could also see auditing sessions being ripe pickings for hypnosis and other "brain washing" techniques.

I'm curious to see how Scientology's recruitment is doing. Now that there is so much more public and easily accessible information regarding their "secrets", are people joining as they did before (i.e., taking their free "personality test")?

heckles
01-05-2012, 03:34 PM
On paper it can seem quite odd that new and joining members of Scientology believe the stories regarding Xenu. However, that's not how they're first introduced to Scientology and it's quite sometime before they get to that point.

Or, as Mormons call their bait-and-switch: "milk before meat".

Diane Mars
01-05-2012, 04:19 PM
If anyone is interested in reading some testimonials from ex-scientologists and documents, etc. here's the most accurate and complete website I ever found on the web (OK, knowing that I'm living in Switzerland, lol, but I browse all around the world), but all what you'll read from there is TRUE :yikes::scream:!!!!!

EDIT to add the link, stupid me :p http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/english-index.htm#H

milanessa
01-05-2012, 04:29 PM
If anyone is interested in reading some testimonials from ex-scientologists and documents, etc. here's the most accurate and complete website I ever found on the web (OK, knowing that I'm living in Switzerland, lol, but I browse all around the world), but all what you'll read from there is TRUE :yikes::scream:!!!!!

:confused: What site?

Diane Mars
01-05-2012, 04:34 PM
:confused: What site?

Sorry :rofl: : http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/english-index.htm#H

milanessa
01-05-2012, 05:30 PM
Sorry :rofl: : http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/english-index.htm#H


Thanks. ;)

CantALoop
01-05-2012, 08:38 PM
I'm curious to see how Scientology's recruitment is doing. Now that there is so much more public and easily accessible information regarding their "secrets", are people joining as they did before (i.e., taking their free "personality test")?

It's enough where they're Photoshopping pictures of their events (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLzMN7ezv8) to fill in empty seats.

Also, $cientology outposts have been downsizing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_Q9fA5srY). I've even witnessed this locally, as our local branch went from a prominent ground floor store front (http://i.imgur.com/e8p0D.jpg)in a location with lots of foot traffic to the second floor of a building with no obvious visible signs (http://i.imgur.com/WF3Fu.jpg) with probably less square footage and on a street with more vehicle than pedestrian traffic.

Diane Mars
01-05-2012, 10:03 PM
...

I'm curious to see how Scientology's recruitment is doing. Now that there is so much more public and easily accessible information regarding their "secrets", are people joining as they did before (i.e., taking their free "personality test")?

You'll find everything (and probably more) you're looking for through the link I posted above :)

DarrellH
01-05-2012, 10:39 PM
Maybe Tom Cruise can attempt a Coup?

rjblue
01-06-2012, 03:38 AM
I don't care who it offends, Scientology is not a religion, it is a science fiction book happening in real life! The founder was a darn science fiction author for goodness sake. A science fiction author who as a young man sitting around with his fellow aspiring writers said to people that the best way to get rich quick was to found your own religion. There is a big difference between genuine people following a crazy person who thinks he's a prophet, and a group of charlatans running a con game. Scientology should be illegal everywhere. I should start a pyramid scheme and call it a religion...

heckles
01-06-2012, 05:24 PM
A science fiction author who as a young man sitting around with his fellow aspiring writers said to people that the best way to get rich quick was to found your own religion.

Who was also a bigamist, deadbeat dad and wife-beater.