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danceronice
01-06-2012, 05:49 PM
I don't care who it offends, Scientology is not a religion, it is a science fiction book happening in real life! The founder was a darn science fiction author for goodness sake. They say you need to give lots of money to the Church before the big message is revealed. It is such an obvious scam but people actually fall for it. I can not fathom how someone hears this stuff and thinks it sounds true and like something they want to believe in. How does that work? People are this stupid???

It is less for me that Hubbard was an SF author than that the ultimate origins of his founding a religion are HE MADE A BET WITH ROBERT HEINLEIN. I mean ye gods, do people think Christianity started because Jesus and John the Baptist wagered on who could get more dramatically martyred?

"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

From the lead-in to the article:


The Church of Scientology has been rocked by accusations from one of its former senior executives that the religion is becoming a hollow moneymaking machine run by an autocratic ruler.

What do they mean, "is becoming"?

NinjaTurtles
01-06-2012, 05:51 PM
It's enough where they're Photoshopping pictures of their events (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLzMN7ezv8) to fill in empty seats.

Also, $cientology outposts have been downsizing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_Q9fA5srY). I've even witnessed this locally, as our local branch went from a prominent ground floor store front (http://i.imgur.com/e8p0D.jpg)in a location with lots of foot traffic to the second floor of a building with no obvious visible signs (http://i.imgur.com/WF3Fu.jpg) with probably less square footage and on a street with more vehicle than pedestrian traffic.

Interesting, thanks :).

I work nearby and often walk past the Founding Church of Scientology in DC, it's a very large and nice building; almost always adorned with a welcoming open house sign! In the warmer months, I often see members pitch a tent and table at Farragut Square near the Metro offering free "personality tests". I've never seen anyone actually go-up and talk with them/take one :shuffle:.

I certainly have my opinions of Scientology, largely formed upon its choice words on my field (Psychology) :P. Regardless of the inner mechanisms (cult vs. monetary scheme, etc.), it's troubling to see people being taken advantage of and potentially harmed. :(

kwanfan1818
01-06-2012, 06:40 PM
In February 2011 The New Yorker published a long profile ("The Apostate") about director Paul Haggis' break with Scientology when leadership refused to denounce the San Diego branch, whose staff member had signed an online petition in support of Proposition 8 (marriage between members of the opposite sex only).

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright

In it there's a discussion of the leadership issues and the two-tiered system for elite vs. the rabble, as well as his experience with auditing and the process of revealing the big secret.

Marge_Simpson
01-06-2012, 07:37 PM
Several years ago, my coworkers and I decided we should start our own religion. Since eating dinner was the high point of our evenings, we would become "The Foodists" (as opposed to nudists)
Our high priest would wear an apron and a chef's hat. And brandish a whisk and a carving knife.
Instead of an altar, we would worship before a convection oven.
Every morning we would read a passage from our holy book, "Mastering the Art of French Cooking"
We would have our own feast days, ie truffle day, prime rib day.
Anyone who violated our holy laws would be punished by having to eat at Burger King. :lol:

PeterG
01-06-2012, 11:03 PM
If anyone is interested in reading some testimonials from ex-scientologists and documents, etc. here's the most accurate and complete website I ever found on the web (OK, knowing that I'm living in Switzerland, lol, but I browse all around the world), but all what you'll read from there is TRUE :yikes::scream:!!!!!

EDIT to add the link, stupid me :p http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/english-index.htm#H

Well, as long as we're giving links to websites about religions where everything is absolutely true, try this one out:

http://www.evilbible.com/

There is info about "selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9)."

I swear, it's the freakiest religion ever! There's also stuff about animals which speak to you in your own language, entire seas being split into two, and the leader of this cult DROWNS all his children by flooding the planet for forty days and forty nights! FREAKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

FigureSpins
01-07-2012, 12:08 AM
There is a "religion" that embraces tattoos and piercings as a "path to spiritual enlightenment."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/06/07/2357460/johnston-school-to-allow-nose.html#storylink=misearch

Jot the Dot Dot
01-07-2012, 12:45 AM
There is a "religion" that embraces tattoos and piercings as a "path to spiritual enlightenment."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/06/07/2357460/johnston-school-to-allow-nose.html#storylink=misearch

You mean aside from this?: http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/01/08/1225817/379532-john-travolta-battlefield-earth.jpg

Marge_Simpson
01-07-2012, 08:31 AM
These groups make the foodists sound downright sane. Perhaps we should start it for real. :P

Jot the Dot Dot
01-07-2012, 03:35 PM
These groups make the foodists sound downright sane. Perhaps we should start it for real. :P

Let's start with our own language :respec: Forget Esperonto or Klingon, this is the wave of the future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU0QZQRTNr0

Aussie Willy
01-08-2012, 01:48 AM
I vote for starting our own religion.

Although being involved in skating is a religion in itself. It costs a lot of money, you end up worshipping your coaches and you are afraid of those who may pass judgement on you.

Ozzisk8tr
01-08-2012, 02:51 AM
Interesting, thanks :).

I work nearby and often walk past the Founding Church of Scientology in DC, it's a very large and nice building; almost always adorned with a welcoming open house sign! In the warmer months, I often see members pitch a tent and table at Farragut Square near the Metro offering free "personality tests". I've never seen anyone actually go-up and talk with them/take one :shuffle:.

I certainly have my opinions of Scientology, largely formed upon its choice words on my field (Psychology) :P. Regardless of the inner mechanisms (cult vs. monetary scheme, etc.), it's troubling to see people being taken advantage of and potentially harmed. :(

Enjoyed your post. Your last sentence inspired me to change a couple of words. It's how I feel sometimes:
I certainly have my opinions of the ISU, largely formed upon its choice words on my field (Skating) :P. Regardless of the inner mechanisms (cult vs. monetary scheme, etc.), it's troubling to see people being taken advantage of and potentially harmed. ;)

CantALoop
01-08-2012, 02:57 AM
So would Ottavio Cinquata be David Miscavige or the evil Lord Xenu? :P