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BigB08822
12-28-2011, 04:45 AM
I had not watched Michelle's 98 LP in quite a while and I teared up at the end and had major chills. It was really one for the ages, wasn't it???

bardtoob
12-28-2011, 05:57 AM
Excuse me, but the skater who delivered the best free skate at the 1988 Olympics was Liz Manley. I'm sorry, but that simply eclipsed Midori on the night. What were you watching??? Midori was very good, but nowhere near as good as she was a year later.

ABC, and I did not know the difference between triple jumps, but I knew Midori had the hardest program, which would have won in any other sport.

What were you watching that night?

matti
12-28-2011, 06:15 AM
Excuse me, but the skater who delivered the best free skate at the 1988 Olympics was Liz Manley. I'm sorry, but that simply eclipsed Midori on the night. What were you watching??? Midori was very good, but nowhere near as good as she was a year later.

Midori's 7 triples vs. Manley's 3...? Liz's 4th attempted triple (loop) was two-footed, so it did not count at all according to the rules of the day! Plus none of Manley's triples were in combination or even in sequence...

t.mann
12-28-2011, 06:55 AM
I had not watched Michelle's 98 LP in quite a while and I teared up at the end and had major chills. It was really one for the ages, wasn't it???

Definitely.

Holley Calmes
12-28-2011, 01:58 PM
Somebody mentioned Shizuka from 2004. I recall that program vividly. Don't know if it compares to quite the heights of these other programs, but it was gorgeous. Someone mentioned it, so here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xzGdVragbo

Funny-no Sasha Cohen on this thread? She's not my cup of tea, but I thought she did have some influence on women's skating and put down at least one program where she didn't wind up a human zamboni....didn't she? She was unique and beautiful.

pollyanna
12-28-2011, 02:05 PM
1. Nobody else on the list had a 3A and nobody else had a 2A-3S, so all Midori's performances were a cut above the rest for the 1980s through 2010s.

Completely agree with your entire post. :respec:


Some good points, but for me the 1989 Worlds LP remains Midori's best. For sheer impact and awe, it was stunning. :)

I'm glad you put in the "for me" part. I loved Midori's 1989 performance, but for me, 1988 Olys LP was the greatest.


Excuse me, but the skater who delivered the best free skate at the 1988 Olympics was Liz Manley. I'm sorry, but that simply eclipsed Midori on the night. What were you watching??? Midori was very good, but nowhere near as good as she was a year later.

Unfortunately here, you get a bit rude. In your opinion, Liz had the best free skate. In my opinion, I hated Liz's skating style, she did not perform near as many great jumps as Midori (not just triples, but doubles made more difficult by entries and arm positions), Midori was a superior spinner, and I preferred Midori's presentation to Liz's, which I thought downright ugly. But's that just my opinion, I would never stoop to saying "What were you watching???" Beauty is in the eye and all that.


You know what? Everybody has their own cup of tea.
Therefore, each person's taste will be different.
You may not agree with that but you should respect other's taste.
Because it's just their own taste. Am i right?

Exactly.

olympic
12-28-2011, 02:40 PM
Midori's 7 triples vs. Manley's 3...? Liz's 4th attempted triple (loop) was two-footed, so it did not count at all according to the rules of the day! Plus none of Manley's triples were in combination or even in sequence...

Didn't Liz land 5 triples? lutz, loop, 1 or 2 3toes and 1 or 2 3sals?? I don't think she would've been placed in front of Witt and Ito with only 3 triples ..

orientalplane
12-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Didn't Liz land 5 triples? lutz, loop, 1 or 2 3toes and 1 or 2 3sals?? I don't think she would've been placed in front of Witt and Ito with only 3 triples ..

No, she landed only four - lutz, loop, salchow and toe loop. I must admit I did not see any double-footing on the loop, and it seems the judges did not either. But in any case it was enough to put her above Witt, two of whose triples were easier.

Of course Midori should have won the whole thing.

falling_dance
12-28-2011, 02:57 PM
I can't think of just one, so here's a handful of "honorable mention" performances:

Tenley Albright, 1953 US Nats FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjYF8ThHkuA&t=42s) (Who else in the world skated like that at the time?)
Peggy Fleming, 1968 US Nats FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdPKgg8SGys)
Chen Lu, 1994 NHK FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR0qX7xhNLw)
Michelle Kwan, 2000 Worlds FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWpOfaDZW7M)
Kim Yu-Na, 2007 Worlds SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FmncaNGLOI&t=1m55s) (Danse Macabre is more sophisticated, eys. I just prefer certain elements here--the combination, spiral and step sequences, double axel, even the flying sit--to those from 2009 Worlds.)
Mao Asada, 2010 Olympics SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEZgoPpCAI)

briancoogaert
12-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Funny-no Sasha Cohen on this thread? She's not my cup of tea, but I thought she did have some influence on women's skating and put down at least one program where she didn't wind up a human zamboni....didn't she? She was unique and beautiful.
Hehe, see 1st page ;)

I like Sasha's Marshell's 2004 LP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouNL5ux17c4

attyfan
12-28-2011, 03:16 PM
Chen Lu 1996 Worlds FS

While I believe that the greatest performance ever goes to one of Midori's programs (can't make up my mind which one though), and I think Kwan had performances better than this one ('98 Nats; Worlds FS in both '00 and '01) I also believe that the 1996 Worlds battle between Lu and Kwan is the greatest competition of all time. IMO, the appropriate result would have been calling it a tie, with duplicate golds.

pollyanna
12-28-2011, 03:19 PM
....I also believe that the 1996 Worlds battle between Lu and Kwan is the greatest competition of all time. IMO, the appropriate result would have been calling it a tie, with duplicate golds.
:respec:

briancoogaert
12-28-2011, 03:33 PM
I also believe that the 1996 Worlds battle between Lu and Kwan is the greatest competition of all time. IMO, the appropriate result would have been calling it a tie, with duplicate golds.
It would have been so good.
Anyway, IMO, the best competition was 1998 Olympics in Nagano.
With Tara Lipinski, Michelle Kwan, Lu Chen, Maria Butyrskaya, Irina Slutskaya all fighting. I wish they called it a tie for gold and silver, as well :)

Holley Calmes
12-28-2011, 05:30 PM
Hehe, see 1st page ;)

Oops! My bad. But it is strange (to me anyway) that there's not more about her on this thread.

Vagabond
12-28-2011, 09:22 PM
But it is strange (to me anyway) that there's not more about her on this thread.

It's a Free Skate thread, that's why! :P

I almost never vote in polls like this, but I think Janet Lynn's 1971 Worlds Free Skate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vzvtjbcv-Cs#t=80s) (:swoon:) should be on this list, even if there isn't a complete video of it posted on Youtube.