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Seerek
12-18-2011, 11:43 PM
The Kristina Wegelius example from the 1982 World Championships Thread (1 after SP to 9 after FS) brings up an interesting question:

What are other examples of leaders who dropped a lot after the free skate, but this decline down the standings was actually expected?

Louis
12-19-2011, 01:42 AM
Anytime Sasha Cohen took the ice. :fragile: :wuzrobbed

falling_dance
12-19-2011, 01:44 AM
Laura Lepisto dropped from first in the short to seventh overall at 2007 Skate Canada. I can't remember if quite that drop was expected at the time, but I don't think very many observers expected her to remain ahead of Asada, or even Nakano and Rochette.

caseyedwards
12-19-2011, 03:20 AM
How about Julia Sebestyen at 2009 Cup of Russia?

neptune
12-19-2011, 07:09 AM
Well, except during her last competitive season, Nancy Kerrigan was usually pretty reliable in that regard. :)

falling_dance
12-19-2011, 07:27 AM
Well, except during her last competitive season, Nancy Kerrigan was usually pretty reliable in that regard. :)

Not as far as the overall standings were concerned. From 1991 to the end of her career, she remained on the podium on every occasion but one, and I get the impression that her below-third finish in Prague was something of a surprise (though not to everyone, I'm sure). Perhaps I'm interpreting the OP too narrowly, but I'd say that to have "dropped a lot after the free skate" is to have missed winning a medal altogether.

1990-1991

Nationals: 3rd in both phases
Worlds: 5th to 3rd

1991-1992

Nations Cup: 1st overall (I don't know how she fared in the short.)
Trophee Lalique: 4th to 3rd
Nationals: 2nd in both phases
Olympics: 2nd to 3rd
Worlds: 3rd to 2nd

1992-1993

Skate America: 4th to 2nd
Nationals: 1st in both phases
Worlds: 1st to 5th

michiruwater
12-19-2011, 07:35 AM
Sasha Cohen epitomizes this.

Before this season, I'd say Carolina Kostner. But then I can't quite recall if it was the sp or lp she usually blew?

Kiira Korpi.

Ares
12-19-2011, 07:48 AM
I didn't really *expect* Sasha to fall in the standings. I wasn't surprised when it happened though. She had the ability and had the potential to deliver and we could at least hope that she would.

Kristina Wegelius, who the OP referenced, was expected to drop because she clearly didn't have the content to maintain the lead even before she stepped on the ice.

Sasha Cohen could have won just about every competition she entered. It's a shame she never became a World Champion.

Loves_Shizuka
12-19-2011, 07:51 AM
When Nagasu led the 2010 worlds I didn't expect that to last.

falling_dance
12-19-2011, 07:53 AM
Sasha Cohen epitomizes this.

With respect to expectations that she'd place lower in the FS, perhaps (though Ares makes a very good point).

With respect to sharp declines in her overall placements after "winning" the short programs, no.

maharbabackward
12-19-2011, 07:56 AM
Berezhnaya and Sikharulidze's first World Championships.. 2nd in the SP.. and 9th in the FS I think?

briancoogaert
12-19-2011, 10:15 AM
Joannie Rochette at 2006 Worlds. :wuzrobbed

Laetitia Hubert at 1992 Olympics. :wuzrobbed

Surya Bonaly at 1998 Euros (IIRC, she was 2nd entering the FS, and 6th overall)...

Maximillian
12-19-2011, 01:10 PM
This was pretty much Kira Ivanova's entire 85-88 quad!

museksk8r
12-19-2011, 03:20 PM
I'd be surprised if anyone expected Bobek to maintain her lead in 1995 over Chen and Bonaly at Worlds. As a big Nicole fan, I definitely hoped she would hold on to her lead, but I definitely didn't expect it to happen. She was lacking in experience, confidence under pressure, and consistency. I'm sure being in the lead after the SP must have surprised her and everyone else and unfortunately added more pressure to her than she could deal with. :wuzrobbed

briancoogaert
12-19-2011, 05:02 PM
I'd be surprised if anyone expected Bobek to maintain her lead in 1995 over Chen and Bonaly at Worlds. As a big Nicole fan, I definitely hoped she would hold on to her lead, but I definitely didn't expect it to happen. She was lacking in experience, confidence under pressure, and consistency. I'm sure being in the lead after the SP must have surprised her and everyone else and unfortunately added more pressure to her than she could deal with. :wuzrobbed
Olga Markova was 2nd after the SP, and she finished in 5th. It really was a special World championships !