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Iceman
12-18-2011, 07:04 PM
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sp20111219f1.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+japantimes+%28The+Japan+Times %3A+All+Stories%29

kwanfan1818
12-18-2011, 07:06 PM
What are the selection criteria for the Japanese World team this year?

Jeschke
12-18-2011, 07:08 PM
with hanyu constant rising, i expected oda not making the worlds team this year, but i hoped for a competition. i doubt the japanese federation will go for a face2face challenge at 4cc.

doctor
12-18-2011, 07:35 PM
with hanyu constant rising, i expected oda not making the worlds team this year, but i hoped for a competition. i doubt the japanese federation will go for a face2face challenge at 4cc.

What do you mean by "face2face challenge"?

genevieve
12-18-2011, 07:38 PM
I think Jeschke means sending both Hanyu and Oda to 4CCs and letting their result there determine who goes to Worlds (assuming Takahashi wins Nats and Hanyu comes in 2nd)

ETA: Does Japan only have 2 spots for men?

Ziggy
12-18-2011, 07:42 PM
Japanese Federation always decided the World team before the Four Continents, IIRC.

Hanyu better get sent to Worlds or :mad:.

At this stage Oda should either retire or represent Azerbeijan.

He would have made pretty any other National team easily but I don't really feel sorry for him. He messed up so many chances in the past and he seems to have peaked.

HisWeirness
12-18-2011, 07:47 PM
Japan has three direct Mens entries to both 4CCs and Worlds.

RockTheTassel
12-18-2011, 07:51 PM
I think Jeschke means sending both Hanyu and Oda to 4CCs and letting their result there determine who goes to Worlds (assuming Takahashi wins Nats and Hanyu comes in 2nd)

ETA: Does Japan only have 2 spots for men?

Japan has three, and Takahiko Kozuka is also in the mix.

SamuraiK
12-18-2011, 07:51 PM
I think he's out for the season then. He has messed up so many times and JSF won't give him the benefit of doubt specially with so many great guys up and coming.

On the positive side, this may open up the 4CC team for Machida, Mura or Murakami, which will be a great opportunity.

I'm still :wall: about his fail at maths and the lost bronze at Moscow:(

Vash01
12-18-2011, 08:23 PM
It seems difficult for Oda to make a strong come back next season, given the talent pool in mens field in Japan.

genevieve
12-18-2011, 08:39 PM
Japan has three, and Takahiko Kozuka is also in the mix.
:duh: Of course he is.

briancoogaert
12-18-2011, 09:42 PM
I wish him a speedy recovery, but I'm afraid we won't see him again at Worlds. I mean, Takahashi, Kozuka and Hanyu are such a strong team.

Marco
12-19-2011, 03:47 AM
It is a shame that Oda's failure to think on his feet cost him 2 Worlds bronze medals (2006 and 2011), a National title (2005/6) and an Olympic berth (2006). And he also lost a season to his drink driving incident. If none of these happened, he probably could have a run against Kozuka who is also a world medalist but also not skating his best so far this season or Hanyu who is a promising up and comer but still no world medals to boot.

Alas, with what Kozuka and Hanyu accomplished these 2 seasons, and with him still not medalling at Worlds 5 years out, there really is no strategic or political reason to support Oda for the world team anymore. (and his recent programs have sucked real bad)

This is such a pity because he has always had it all (bar the head).

Seerek
12-19-2011, 03:51 AM
Interesting of the possibility of 4CC spots opening up if Oda is not sent - Tatsuki Machida won Golden Spin of Zagreb last week with a 228+ combined score...(which would have been 7th best overall of the season had it been ISU recognized).

paskatefan
12-19-2011, 11:43 AM
Wishing Nobu a full recovery!