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reckless
12-18-2011, 10:45 PM
Can you name three outstanding performances by child actors for this year? I certainly can't, at least not in a supporting/leading role capacity.

I can think of a few that would be deserving of consideration:

Asa Butterfield and Chloe Moretz in Hugo
Hunter McCracken in Tree of Life
Khomotso Manyaka in Life, Above All

Still, I think the award would work best if it were an occasional award when there really is a standout performance deserving of recognition.

liv
12-18-2011, 10:59 PM
there are points for both sides. The extra pressure by parents is definitely a consideration for not having them...

What movies in the past do you think the child actors were worthy of an oscar but didn't get recognition?

I remember wondering why Christian Bale didn't get a nomination for Empire of the Sun.

reckless
12-18-2011, 11:45 PM
there are points for both sides. The extra pressure by parents is definitely a consideration for not having them...

What movies in the past do you think the child actors were worthy of an oscar but didn't get recognition?

I remember wondering why Christian Bale didn't get a nomination for Empire of the Sun.

I guess it depends on what you mean by recognition, since there are some performances that have been nominated, but not awarded. Christian Bale in Empire of the Sun is one standout. Here are a few others:

Haley Joel Osment - nominated for Sixth Sense, but not for AI
River Phoenix - Stand By Me (he was nominated for Running on Empty, but was 18 or 19 by that time)
Natalie Portman - Leon: The Professional
Jamie Bell - Billy Elliot
Elijah Wood - Radio Flyer
Joe Mazzello - Radio Flyer, Shadowlands, The Cure, Simon Birch
Edward Furlong - Terminator 2, American Heart
Max Records - Where the Wild Things Are
Ivana Baquero - Pan's Labyrinth
Freddie Highmore - Finding Neverland
Dakota Fanning - I Am Sam
Kåre Hedebrant - Let the Right One In
Lina Leandersson- Let the Right One In
Christina Ricci - The Addams Family

DaveRocks
12-18-2011, 11:46 PM
River Phoenix - Stand By Me


One of my favorite movies ever. So :( that he's gone.

michiruwater
12-18-2011, 11:48 PM
I'm still surprised that Kirsten Dunst wasn't nominated for Interview With A Vampire. It was a very difficult role and she was entirely believable.

DBZ
12-19-2011, 12:21 AM
I guess it depends on what you mean by recognition, since there are some performances that have been nominated, but not awarded. Christian Bale in Empire of the Sun is one standout. Here are a few others:

Well, this is kinda assuming that these performances weren't nominated for oscars because they came from child actors, no?

I mean, only 5 people get nominated each year in each acting category. There's always going to be actors who get passed over for a myriad of reasons that have nothing to do with age.

There are tons of other equally powerful performances each year that I feel go unacknowledged by the academy, many of them I would argue were better than a lot of the performances in your list.

But that's subjectivity for ya. The Oscars are about 80% politics and 20% actual merit IMO, so it's futile to try and compensate for those who fall through the cracks because the list would then be endless.

Yeah, some deserving kid might lose out because he's a child actor, but another well-deserving actor might go unrecognized because he's black, or Asian, or in a low-budget film, or doesn't have Harvey Weinstein backing them, etc.

Should they each be given their own category?

Oh, one last thing:


Christina Ricci - The Addams Family

Um, seriously? An oscar nod for that performance? :huh: :P ;)

duane
12-19-2011, 12:54 AM
I'm still surprised that Kirsten Dunst wasn't nominated for Interview With A Vampire. It was a very difficult role and she was entirely believable.
I agree here. Definitely deserving of a nomination.

victoriaheidi
12-23-2011, 06:39 AM
I don't think the category would help anyone. Because, in all honesty, what does a kid need with an Oscar? Oscars clearly don't project long-term success, and, as Colin Firth said, they're basically the pinnacle of someone's career. Just look at one of my favorite Broadway kids, Andrea McArdle (who didn't win the Tony): her main selling point is a role she played at age 12. Has this benefitted her? Sure, she's recorded some CDs and done some roles, but why peak before puberty?

Really, an Oscar isn't going to push a kid any further in life.

Japanfan
12-23-2011, 09:27 AM
I question how much a child can really act, versus just playing him or self. Good acting requires a capacity for self-reflection and the observation of others. I'm not sure at what age that capacity becomes actualized, but I doubt it is before the teen years.

Ziggy
12-23-2011, 02:48 PM
Good acting requires a capacity for self-reflection and the observation of others. I'm not sure at what age that capacity becomes actualized, but I doubt it is before the teen years.

During the teen years, yes.

orbitz
12-23-2011, 03:24 PM
Really, an Oscar isn't going to push a kid any further in life.

It'll give him a bigger paycheck for his next few projects, which could financially set him and his family up nicely if they play their cards right. An acting career can be fleeting for most, so it's best to grab a big a piece of the pie as you can while you still got "IT".

BigB08822
12-23-2011, 05:16 PM
An example for someone who I think deserves a nomination this year, despite her age, is Mélusine Mayance from Sarah's Key. I find it disheartening that I haven't heard her name mentioned even once as someone who deserves a nomination. I don't even know if she is among the nominees in the all of these critic awards or if they only post winners.

Cachoo
12-23-2011, 06:53 PM
I don't think the category would help anyone. Because, in all honesty, what does a kid need with an Oscar? Oscars clearly don't project long-term success, and, as Colin Firth said, they're basically the pinnacle of someone's career. Just look at one of my favorite Broadway kids, Andrea McArdle (who didn't win the Tony): her main selling point is a role she played at age 12. Has this benefitted her? Sure, she's recorded some CDs and done some roles, but why peak before puberty?

Really, an Oscar isn't going to push a kid any further in life.

Gwyneth Paltrow was not a child when she won but sometimes I get the sense she might think "too much too soon." I'd rather not see this category.

orbitz
12-23-2011, 08:21 PM
How many actors that won an Oscar as a child went on to a distinguish acting career as an adult? Tatum O'Neill didn't. Anna Paquin is working steadily, but I think her acting is merely adequate.

soxxy
12-23-2011, 08:41 PM
How many actors that won an Oscar as a child went on to a distinguish acting career as an adult? Tatum O'Neill didn't. Anna Paquin is working steadily, but I think her acting is merely adequate.

Patty Duke won a competitive Oscar and worked steadily, including (or especially) television. Can't think of other child actors who won other than the two mentioned above. I'm sure Patty won Emmys, wrote books, etc.

ETA: I'd say no to a special child actor Oscar category.