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haribobo
12-12-2011, 07:42 PM
I think the way these 3 performances were judged pose for an interesting debate. How would you score them under 6.0?

Alissa Czisny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIvGQkFtQcU

Angela Maxwell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIPrX_aYhvk

Ashley Wagner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V68VP_KTm2w

smarts1
12-12-2011, 08:04 PM
Ashley Wagner:
Technical: 5.6 Artistic: 5.7

Alissa Czisny:
Technical: 4.9 Artistic: 5.6

Angela Maxwell
Technical: 5.5 Artistic: 5.3

Louise
12-12-2011, 08:57 PM
Wagner: 5.6/5.7
Czisny: 5.5/5.6
Maxwell: 5.2/5.2

smarts1
12-12-2011, 09:06 PM
^ Three triple Czisny placed higher than Maxwell for technical merit???

essence_of_soy
12-13-2011, 03:29 PM
I guess this depends what year of 6.0 we are talking about.
Every quadrennial, marks were adjusted to reflect content.

I'll go with the last year it was in use, 2004.

Ashley Wagner:
Technical: 5.5 Artistic: 5.6

Alissa Czisny:
Technical: 5.1 Artistic: 5.7

Angela Maxwell
Technical: 5.7 Artistic: 5.3

Marco
12-13-2011, 03:49 PM
Wagner (5.5 triples and 2 2axels) 5.7/5.7 powerful, complex program but had flutz and toe-axel issues

Czisny (3 triples and 2 2axels) 5.4/5.8 elegant, controlled performance with great spins marred by a fall

Maxwell (6 triples and 1 2axel) 5.5/5.3 typical jumping bean performance with decent energy but no finesse whatsoever

AliasJohnDoe
12-13-2011, 06:09 PM
Doesn't the SP count anymore?

briancoogaert
12-13-2011, 07:04 PM
I guess this depends what year of 6.0 we are talking about.
Every quadrennial, marks were adjusted to reflect content.

I'll go with the last year it was in use, 2004.

Angela Maxwell
Technical: 5.7 Artistic: 5.3
Those kind of marks were not common under 6.0. I mean such a difference between Tech and Art (the contrary was common for good skaters who bombed !) ;)
Tara Lipinski got 5.4 and 5.4 at best for her 1996 Worlds LP (amazing technical performance)

winterone
12-14-2011, 04:22 PM
Angela Maxwell what talent she had....Amazing potential amazing athelete......real mystery what happened to her.....Texas girl goes to the big city and get's lost....in more ways than one....

Frau Muller
12-14-2011, 05:29 PM
Wagner: 5.7/5.8
Czisny: 5.4/5.9
Maxwell: 5.6/5.3

kapriza
12-14-2011, 07:11 PM
Angela Maxwell what talent she had....Amazing potential amazing athelete......real mystery what happened to her.....Texas girl goes to the big city and get's lost....in more ways than one....
agree. I loved how spunky she was. really miss her.