View Full Version : Telling the difference between a mens' mag and a rapist's words

12-10-2011, 05:17 AM
This is not meant to upset any survivors at all, so if you think this might be hurtful, please don't read further...

I read this article (http://jezebel.com/5866602/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-mens-magazine-and-a-rapist) today about a study that shows that people can't tell the difference between words uttered by convicted rapists and some "lads mags" or men's magazines, regarding women. It's truly horrifying.

The University of Surrey reports on the study, to be published in the British Journal of Psychology. Researchers gave a group of men and women quotes from the British lad mags FHM, Loaded, Nuts and Zoo, as well as excerpts from interviews with actual convicted rapists originally published in the book The Rapist Files. The participants couldn't reliably identify which statements came from magazines and which from rapists what's more, they rated the magazine quotes as slightly more derogatory than the statements made by men serving time for raping women.

The researchers also showed both sets of quotes to a separate group of men the men were more likely to identify with the rapists' statements than the lad mag excerpts. The only slightly bright spot in the study: when researchers randomly (and sometimes incorrectly) labelled the quotes as coming from either rapists or magazines, the men were more likely to identify with the ones allegedly drawn from mags. At least they didn't want to agree with rapists.

12-10-2011, 06:55 PM
But is it really all that different from the shit that gets published for women in a magazine like Cosmo? Or Glamour? Some of the biggest print in the cover stories is about sex, and how to "please your man" or the "best sex positions". Nothing in there about how to truly cultivate a relationship past the physical level. And then there's the stories about the "latest trends" in hair and make-up, and fashion spreads with clothing I, for one, wouldn't be caught dead wearing in public even if I had the body to wear that stuff (because I DON'T think flaunting oneself in skimpy clothing is classy behavior, whether or not it would cause one to become a rape statistic).

I stopped reading that tripe ages ago, and I'm glad I did. It's no wonder some men think of us women as "whores", even those of us who strive NOT to come across as such.

12-10-2011, 07:07 PM
:confused: I think you've missed the point, Karina.

12-10-2011, 08:05 PM
The quotes they used as examples were disgusting but not surprising. I did have a hard time telling which ones came from a lad mag and which came from rapists. Unfortunately, a lot of popular culture has resorted to giving men the message that women are disposable sex objects. Besides men's magazines, I think another thing that has contributed to this is the popularity of porn. Women are treated like disposable crap in porn and yet it is seen as being mainstream. No wonder so many men can't be in loving, egalitarian sexual relationships. They read and see things that tell them that women have no right to be treated as equal sexual partners.

12-11-2011, 05:03 AM
10. There's nothing quite like a woman standing in the dock accused of murder in a sex game gone wrong . . . The possibility of murder does bring a certain frisson to the bedroom.

S&M play article? :shuffle:

12. You do not want to be caught red-handed . . . go and smash her on a park bench. That used to be my trick.

I was so sure that's from a rapist :yikes:

12-12-2011, 06:32 AM
They all sounded like rapists. :shuffle:

I believe there are plenty of guys who don't read that kind of crap. The guys who do, well, I'm sure would make themselves plain when you talked with them for even 5 minutes and would be easy to avoid dating. :o