PDA

View Full Version : Plushenko gonna skate to the variation of Marton



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 [11] 12 13 14 15

Nours
12-04-2011, 12:23 PM
So he tossed the flowers- big deal! He kept the medal!

Unlike Jane Torvill who just throwed away her Olys bronze as soon as she could. And she's still loved here, wonder why...

Proustable
12-04-2011, 01:50 PM
Unlike Jane Torvill who just throwed away her Olys bronze as soon as she could. And she's still loved here, wonder why...

.... well, I didn't know that (though to be fair, I didn't know about the Plushenko flower throwing thing either until this thread)

berthesghost
12-04-2011, 02:07 PM
Um, Irina, dumped her flowers in the bin at SLC so there's a tradition. It's called disappointment. And whoever said Nancy Kerrigan was gracious to Baiul apparently forgot the eyerolling about her crying and other comments. It's sports people. Athletes invest a lot of money and time and if they don't get a return on their investment, they often aren't happy. This isn't 5 yos playing soccer or baseball where everybody gets a turn. They are adult athletes. I :rofl: at how some figure skating fans get all upset when a skater doesn't act genteel. And, by the same token, those that are media savvy get bashed for the canned line of "I just wanted to have fun." And the :drama: over the perceived trash talk in skating to the media is hysterical. Some fans look for offense in every word or nuance.

Go Plushy. :kickass: and make them cry.You've missed the point completely. Even after surya caused that casino at 94 worlds, she still never gave formal interviews complaining about how average a skater Yuka was.
You can write as many paragraphs as you want about how many skaters lost their cool in the heat of the moment, but it will never diminish the fact that plushy is intentionally bad mouthing Evan, even two years after his loss. :rolleyes:

berthesghost
12-04-2011, 02:10 PM
.... well, I didn't know thatI think most people don't either. If you google it, all that comes up is nours' post above, so... :shuffle:

PrincessLeppard
12-04-2011, 03:01 PM
If you are talking about the interview the day after the men's final in Vancouver in 2010, IIRC Lysacek stated that he and Plushenko were tied on the artistic scores but that he (Lysacek) got slightly higher technical scores. That's not showing a lack of "class", it's stating the truth.

Lysacek also praised Plushenko for all the hard work of making a comeback and said that he admired Plushenko and his accomplishments.

I think people are forgetting that Lysacek didn't lose Nationals gracefully in 2010. That's probably the interview being referred to in this thread.

rfisher
12-04-2011, 03:21 PM
You can write as many paragraphs as you want about how many skaters lost their cool in the heat of the moment, but it will never diminish the fact that plushy is intentionally bad mouthing Evan, even two years after his loss. :rolleyes:

So? Who cares? Does Evan care? :rofl: I doubt it. He has the OGM and all the financial benefits that came with it. I don't get why his fans are all :drama: about it. Plushenko can say anything he wants and it doesn't change a thing. :rofl: Some fans just crack me up with their angst.

berthesghost
12-04-2011, 04:23 PM
So? Who cares? Does Evan care? :rofl: I doubt it. He has the OGM and all the financial benefits that came with it. I don't get why his fans are all :drama: about it. Plushenko can say anything he wants and it doesn't change a thing. :rofl: Some fans just crack me up with their angst.Not sure why you quote me, as I've never been an Evan uber. Not really much of a fan of his at all. Still, dismissing people as crazed Evan fans doesn't really make plushy any less of a bad sport, but there you have it. plushy is one of the worst sports the sport has ever seen, now point to that dog across the street to distract from the subject at hand again. :lol:

rfisher
12-04-2011, 04:30 PM
Sorry, but I quoted you because you quoted me. My defitinion of bad sport is quite different. Tanya Harding was a bad sport when she tried to take out a rival. Using performance enhancing drugs is bad sportsmanship. Fans in stands yelling at a skater to fall is bad sportsmanship. Doing anything during a competition to gain an unfair advantage over a competitor is bad sportsmanship. To my knowledge, Plushenko has never done any of these things; therefore, I do not view any comments he makes as bad sportsmanship. It's just athletes being athletes and often athletes responding to specific questions asked them by reporters.

And I didn't miss the point at all. :)

Triple Butz
12-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Sorry, but I quoted you because you quoted me. My defitinion of bad sport is quite different. Tanya Harding was a bad sport when she tried to take out a rival. Using performance enhancing drugs is bad sportsmanship. Fans in stands yelling at a skater to fall is bad sportsmanship. Doing anything during a competition to gain an unfair advantage over a competitor is bad sportsmanship. To my knowledge, Plushenko has never done any of these things; therefore, I do not view any comments he makes as bad sportsmanship. It's just athletes being athletes and often athletes responding to specific questions asked them by reporters.

And I didn't miss the point at all. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6IObvHJYLw

So, by your definition, this is "sportsmanlike" behavior?? :yikes:

Just "athletes being athletes" I guess :blah:

Nours
12-04-2011, 05:22 PM
I think most people don't either. If you google it, all that comes up is nours' post above, so... :shuffle:

Pretty funny actually because I learnt it on this board, she said in some interviews that she thought the judging was not right and just left her medal in the next behind the scene room she was in on a table. Ok it's not a bean but still... it's an olys medal. I'm not paying so I can't check the archives. Maybe you don't google well enough.
It reminds me all the silly rumors saying Irina trashed away her bronze too. Very doubtfull as in the same old thread you couldfind intervew where she said on the moment it was hard but it was still something lots of people would dream of and that she now keep it preciously.

VarBar
12-04-2011, 05:35 PM
Also, he misses everyone -- his fans and enemies.

So, one's either a Plushenko fan or a Plushenko enemy, there is no option inbetween.:lol:

'Enemies' seems to be a recurrent word in the statements of Plushenko and Mishin for that matter. According to them, Plushenko doesn't have rivals competing against him but enemies trying to destroy him.:lol:

olifaunt
12-04-2011, 05:40 PM
He said "competitors" a moment after he said "enemies." He's not that fluent and realized he picked the wrong word.

Cheylana
12-04-2011, 05:59 PM
And whoever said Nancy Kerrigan was gracious to Baiul apparently forgot the eyerolling about her crying and other comments.
That "whoever" was me. I didn't say Nancy was particularly gracious to Baiul; however, Nancy never publicly trashed Oksana for winning her OGM with that crap freeskate and a bunch of two-footed jumps, despite the fact that a lot of people thought Nancy should have won. She didn't endlessly whine to the media nor did she accept a platinum medal for her efforts.

briancoogaert
12-04-2011, 06:03 PM
That "whoever" was me. I didn't say Nancy was particularly gracious to Baiul; however, Nancy never publicly trashed Oksana for winning her OGM with that crap freeskate and a bunch of two-footed jumps, despite the fact that a lot of people thought Nancy should have won. She didn't endlessly whine to the media nor did she accept a platinum medal for her efforts.
I wouldn't care if she had done that. Because IMO, Nancy really deserved the Gold.
Plushenko, on the other hand...

Anyway, he looks really fit on the video. His jumps look really good, so are his lines in spins.
But what will be interesting to see is : speed, transitions...

LadyNit
12-04-2011, 06:54 PM
I thought Plushy's footwork looked pretty clunky in the video. Maybe it was the length of his pants (too short) that made me think that. :lol: