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iggie
11-26-2011, 01:21 AM
that term is bounced around all the time, but i don't exactly know how it's done. anyone care to explain?

overedge
11-26-2011, 01:26 AM
Coaches, federation officials, parents, other skaters, etc. informally lobbying the judges and/or officials to get them to treat a skater more favorably. Or judges making deals with each other to support some skaters but not others.

rfisher
11-26-2011, 01:35 AM
And it's frequently used when a poster's favorite skater didn't win. Clearly, politicking was the reason if a different skater was scored higher. :P

Pierre
11-26-2011, 01:43 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/esmblw.jpg

iggie
11-26-2011, 01:46 AM
is it a matter of saying that your team, which previously could barely crack the top ten, is now is the top tier, which means that the judges start to see them as a top team, which means that they start to give them top tier marks?

gkelly
11-26-2011, 02:30 AM
Here's a good explanation (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3337462&postcount=27) of a more subtle, not necessarily dishonest, way it can happen internationally.

literaryfreak
11-26-2011, 02:31 AM
Here's a good explanation (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3337462&postcount=27) of a more subtle, not necessarily dishonest, way it can happen internationally.

I love that post. :lol:

iggie
11-26-2011, 02:43 AM
thanks

Cherub721
11-26-2011, 03:15 AM
Politiking can take many forms. The examples given above are good. Using current skaters in instructional videos as examples of good or bad choreography or elements is politiking IMO.

Part of politiking could also be advocating for certain rule changes that affect everyone on paper but will more likely advance one group of skaters over another. For example, eliminating CDs and encouraging uplifting FDs is helpful to the American ice dancers, but penalizing wrong edge takeoffs and cheated jumps is hurtful to the American ladies.

l'etoile
11-26-2011, 01:08 PM
Here's a good explanation (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3337462&postcount=27) of a more subtle, not necessarily dishonest, way it can happen internationally.

Wow:respec:

Reuven
11-27-2011, 04:11 PM
Here's a good explanation (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3337462&postcount=27) of a more subtle, not necessarily dishonest, way it can happen internationally.
Excellent, excellent. Names have been changed to protect the guilty? ;)

Jot the Dot Dot
11-27-2011, 04:33 PM
This should explain everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaWvVFERVA Now if only an ice-dance team could weave that into a program!

triple_toe
11-27-2011, 08:19 PM
Didn't Lori say something about how she talks to judges about how amazing Patrick's programs are?

Vash01
11-28-2011, 05:19 AM
Another example: Frank Caroll saying couple years ago-"Mirai is scary good", and more recently- saying Liza Tuktamysheva skates at a novice or junior level. Both statements help his skater. That's politicking.

krenseby
11-28-2011, 06:59 AM
Another example: Frank Caroll saying couple years ago-"Mirai is scary good", and more recently- saying Liza Tuktamysheva skates at a novice or junior level. Both statements help his skater. That's politicking.

But I don't know of anyone else but Frank doing this sort of thing. Have you ever heard Brian Orser take Mao Asada down a notch or two? Has Tom Z. ever talked trash about Mirai to help Rachael's cause?