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caseyedwards
11-22-2011, 03:48 AM
Unless there is great improvement by G/E and I/M Russia is likely to send 5 of the 6 people who were in Vancouver to Sochi. China sent Z/Z, P/T and S/Z to three Olympics Russia can send five skaters to two Olympics. Poor Maria Mukhortova!

vodkashot
11-23-2011, 05:53 AM
Even when Lubov and Nodari skate very well their scores arent very high. They skated their absolute best at the GP final last year and couldnt beat out a junior Chinese team who made mistakes. I like them but I fear they have already peaked and it is a peak that will never get them on the World team again, other than possibly if they are willing to wait out several retirements.

I have loved I/M since they were in juniors and it makes me so sad to agree with this.

Karpenko
11-23-2011, 06:33 AM
I'm still holding out for Iliushchekina/Maisuradze, they have more natural charisma than any of the other teams. They are so inconsistent though, and even when skating well they don't score as high as I think they should. B/L are so pretty yet so dull, powerless, and boring.

I/M have the potential to surpass K/S and be competing with V/T, I wish they would get it together already! :wall:

pinky166
11-24-2011, 02:46 AM
I'm still holding out for Iliushchekina/Maisuradze, they have more natural charisma than any of the other teams. They are so inconsistent though, and even when skating well they don't score as high as I think they should. B/L are so pretty yet so dull, powerless, and boring.

I/M have the potential to surpass K/S and be competing with V/T, I wish they would get it together already! :wall:

I agree, but I think if they are to do this, Lubov needs to start eating more and then ideally start working with a jump coach as well. She looks gaunt and emaciated this season and consequently her spark is gone, and the weight loss is not even helping her jumps which seem worse than usual, so packing on a few pounds of muscle would serve her well, I think. And then if she could work with a jump coach and get her SBS triples more consistent, then I think she and Nodari could do really well - their lifts are fantastic, she is naturally charismatic, flexible, and they have good programs and lots of character. They have all the goods they just need to start putting it together when it counts or their PCS will continue to drop, I fear...

julieann
11-24-2011, 03:02 AM
I/M will surpass K/S in 2014 when she retires. They are no where near them at this point and until I/M change coaches and/or choreographers, they never will be.

B/L are pretty firm as the #3 they have done very well to keep it, I hope they can continue; especially after how well they did at TEB.

Vash01
11-24-2011, 05:02 AM
I/M will surpass K/S in 2014 when she retires. They are no where near them at this point and until I/M change coaches and/or choreographers, they never will be.

B/L are pretty firm as the #3 they have done very well to keep it, I hope they can continue; especially after how well they did at TEB.

I agree about the coaching change. It seems I&M need to find another coach-choreographer combination and establish themselves after this season. They may have a slim chance of beating out B&L in that case, or at least establish themselves firmly as the #4 pair so that if there is an injury to one of the top 3 pairs, they can ease into the top 3. Otherwise they have to wait until 2018, and anything can happen in such a long period.

pumba
11-24-2011, 06:30 AM
IMO their programs are fine, sometimes (like this year) they are simply wonderful, so probably there is no problem with choreo. But it really seems that Pavlova for some reason is incapable of bringing her adult skaters to the top. TT/MM left her for the similar reasons back in 2001.
I hope that with current trend when adult couples compete for the top places, they'll have time to gain consistency.

blue_idealist
11-27-2011, 03:16 AM
I wonder if V/T, K/S and B/L will retire after 2014. I know V/T just got together, but they're older than some pairs. I think B/L will probably stick around, being young and will probably finally be Russian #1s if the other two I listed retire. K/S are older and will probably go.. Yuko would be 36 at the 2018 Olympics.. it could be done but it's unlikely, haha.

julieann
11-27-2011, 04:44 AM
I wonder if V/T, K/S and B/L will retire after 2014. I know V/T just got together, but they're older than some pairs. I think B/L will probably stick around, being young and will probably finally be Russian #1s if the other two I listed retire. K/S are older and will probably go.. Yuko would be 36 at the 2018 Olympics.. it could be done but it's unlikely, haha.

Kavaguti will probably be the only one who retires, more due to health than age. If Smirnov chooses to continue (and a suitable partner is available) I would love to see him continue; he will only be 33 at the 2018 Olympics. Trankov will be 34 and Volosozhar will be 32.

Yuri Larionov will be 32 and Vera will be 25. I/M will be 30 and 26.