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AliasJohnDoe
11-14-2011, 09:10 PM
1.Asada
2.Czisny
3.Kostner
4.Suzuki
5.Nagasu/Wagner

smarts1
11-15-2011, 12:12 AM
^ Lol with the Nagasu/Wagner.

aftershocks
11-15-2011, 12:16 AM
My favorites would be: Alissa, Mao, Kostner, Suzuki, Ashley. However, it may look more like: Kostner, Mao, Alissa, Suzuki, Leonova, Makarova, Gedevanishvili, Ashley (fingers crossed that Ashley makes the Worlds team). I think Mirai needs to find herself and get music and programs she can be more excited by. She needs to love skating again.

While I love Alissa's gentle art and beautiful spirit, Carolina's quirky elegance and speed, Ashley's new found precision and joy in her programs, Mao's rebirth and Suzuki's redemption, I am disappointed by Alena Leonova's yucky Morosov remake, and by Mirai's seeming lack of growth and heaviness of spirit (it's evident Miraiís been training hard and improving her jump technique, but she doesnít seem truly invested in her programs).

Unfortunately, Makarova's, Korpi's, and Gedevanishvili's stunning beauty on the ice is just completely marred by their utter lack of consistency. FS audiences were spoiled by Michelle Kwan's legendary magic and consistency -- she left an amazing legacy, but why not try moving in a different direction ladies? Why not take a chance to be different? And I'm not talking dull, sloppy Leonova Pirates of the Caribbean different! Leonova's programs last season did seem to be stretching toward a more edgy take that was different and exciting, but she's taken two steps backward this season. I think Carolina and Alissa are trying to shore up consistency and express who they are on the ice, Suzuki is reveling in overcoming hardships, and Mao is smiling at rediscovering her inner butterfly, while Mirai to me seems to have been dragged into a direction that is antithetical to her free spirit.

Aside from some semblance of joy and breath of fresh air demonstrated by Suzuki, Mao, Alissa, Carolina, and Ashley in performing their programs, none of the ladies actually seem to be enjoying themselves.

When Worlds comes around, it seems to me that the U.S. doesn't have a great deal of political clout that might help edge their skates in the scoring. E.g., Alissa skated well enough to score higher at 2011 Worlds, while Kostner was helped in the scoring with her mistakes.

Jarrett
11-15-2011, 12:25 AM
1. Flatt
2. Asada
3. Suzuki

aftershocks
11-15-2011, 12:36 AM
^^ Maybe Flatt on top at U.S. Collegiate championships, Jarrett -- she's certainly never threatened to be top 3 at Worlds, much less threatened to contend for gold. Maybe you're being tongue-in-cheek, or else you are a huge fan of Rachael's.

judgejudy27
11-15-2011, 12:49 AM
I see Kostner, Czisny, Suzuki, and Asada as the main 4 contenders for gold and the podium favorites. I see Leonova or Nagasu having a chance at a medal (definitely not gold) if one of them skates lights out. I dont really see any other contenders. Wagner will be happy to even make Worlds (I hope she does but even think that is unlikely still), let alone winning a medal.

aftershocks
11-15-2011, 01:07 AM
Right I don't think Ashley is seen as one of the top who can contend for a medal at Worlds -- just getting there will be more than half the battle. If she does make it, I think her programs are strong enough for her to place in the top 8 to 9 or higher if she competes well.

Ashley being able to make the Worlds team I don't think is "unlikely". She has a great chance after her strong showing on the GP circuit. Yes, she has to compete well to make the team, but so do Mirai and Ashley.

mysticchic
11-15-2011, 01:15 AM
1. Flatt
2. Asada
3. Suzuki


what are you smoking?:rofl:

RockTheTassel
11-15-2011, 01:22 AM
1. Carolina Kostner
2. Akiko Suzuki
3. Mao Asada
4. Alissa Czisny
5. Alena Leonova

It should be an interesting year since Kim, Ando, and (likely) Flatt aren't competing at Worlds. More opportunies for skaters to medal or just make the team.

Jarrett
11-15-2011, 01:43 AM
^^ Maybe Flatt on top at U.S. Collegiate championships, Jarrett -- she's certainly never threatened to be top 3 at Worlds, much less threatened to contend for gold. Maybe you're being tongue-in-cheek, or else you are a huge fan of Rachael's.


what are you smoking?:rofl:

:hat1: Same thing as judge that gave Alena 9.00's for her short program at NHK. I just think this thread is silly when we don't even know who will be on the World teams but has never stopped us before from talking out of our asses.

aftershocks
11-15-2011, 01:58 AM
^^ Yes, I thought you were being facetious, Jarrett. You're right of course. It could even look like this:

Makarova
Kostner
Mao
Gedevanishvili
Suzuki
Czisny
Leonova

or:

Mirai
Mao
Czisny
Kostner
Suzuki

Wait, no:

Suzuki
Ashley
Mao
Czisny
Kostner et. al.,

Loves_Shizuka
11-15-2011, 07:58 AM
I wouldn't mind Liashenko winning.

briancoogaert
11-15-2011, 08:28 AM
If there is anyone who deserves this title it would be no one else beside Mao Asada, she has shown such determination to improve and not being afraid of taking risk year after year, by never taking the easy rode like Kostner always does..
And did you see any improvement by Mao ?
I'm also really impressed by her work ethic. But honestly, her jumping technique is exactly the same. Her use of the blade is exactly the same. The way she moves is exactly the same.
On the other hand, Carolina has changed almost everything in her skating going with Franck Carroll. And she shows determination to improve and not being afraid of taking risk year after year, choreographically. ;)

Amy03
11-15-2011, 12:15 PM
And did you see any improvement by Mao ?
I'm also really impressed by her work ethic. But honestly, her jumping technique is exactly the same. Her use of the blade is exactly the same. The way she moves is exactly the same.
On the other hand, Carolina has changed almost everything in her skating going with Franck Carroll. And she shows determination to improve and not being afraid of taking risk year after year, choreographically. ;)


LOL love your sacasm:rofl: I really hope you didn't mean what you just wrote::scream:

cause if you really meant it you most have smooked smothing before watching Mao, LoL Mao has changed every fricken thing there could be changed, by changing her coach and choreographers, to changing her jumps (flip and lutz) and adding her 3lutz and 3Salcow and 2A-3t combination back so that she now has all kind off jumps in her programs... improving her speed adding new spins (laybackspins in sp)...

carolina is the stick opposite off Mao i every way, her jumps seem forsed where Mao are light and smooth.. Mao has all the jumps and keeps making her arsenal more more diffecult as the season progresses, where carolina always takes the easy rode by doing the easy jumps and the same spins... Mao has amazing spins and spiral just look at her flexibility and her positioning and compare it to carolina and you will see the difference! the list could go on....

my god just comparing those to is a crime cause there is nothing to compare to begin with! just looking at Mao's achievement and compare it to carolina should speak for itself!!

(but you may be right carolina takes alot of risks CHOREOGRAPHICALLY:rofl:)

RumbleFish
11-15-2011, 12:41 PM
One half decent skate and all the ubers are out in full force. Miss Asada did better at NHK then she did last year, but that doesn't mean she is ready to take over the world.