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The Accordion
11-12-2011, 11:34 PM
I have a bit of free time this weekend for the first time in a while so I have spent some of it watching skating (of course)

In watching - among others - Takahashi and Kozuka's NHK short programs(Takahashi's multiple times) Jeremy Abbott's freeskate from COC, and just now Patrick Chan's & Javier Fernandez's exhibition skates from Skate Canada - I am just so ecstatic to have so many amazing men to watch right now. And there are the Czechs, Oda and the rest of the Japanese team, Adam Rippon and Denis Ten. And there are so many others too! It's just watching these guys that made me think of it! Can't wait for the men's freeskate at NHK!

Just thought I'd say that.

skateboy
11-12-2011, 11:37 PM
I have a bit of free time this weekend for the first time in a while so I have spent some of it watching skating (of course)

In watching - among others - Takahashi and Kozuka's NHK short programs(Takahashi's multiple times) Jeremy Abbott's freeskate from COC, and just now Patrick Chan's & Javier Fernandez's exhibition skates from Skate Canada - I am just so ecstatic to have so many amazing men to watch right now. And there are the Czechs, Oda and the rest of the Japanese team, Adam Rippon and Denis Ten. And there are so many others too! It's just watching these guys that made me think of it! Can't wait for the men's freeskate at NHK!

Just thought I'd say that.

Agreed. No shortage of talent in the mens field! :rollin:

jlai
11-12-2011, 11:38 PM
I agree, though I must say this is NOT a good time to be a fan of pairs figure skating. :(
(Under COP very few elements are that synchronized any more...)

Aussie Willy
11-13-2011, 12:17 AM
I agree. I think mens is one of the strongest disciplines of the lot and very exciting.

ChelleC
11-13-2011, 12:56 AM
Totally agree with you! The men are really bringing it!

aftershocks
11-13-2011, 02:36 AM
The men's division has been more interesting for quite awhile. I think it began to become more compelling (after a bit of a lull from the time of Curry and Cranston) with Boitano's influence, Bowman's brief magic, Paul (but his star mainly rose after the 92 Olympics in the professional ranks).

Also, a richness and diversity came with the improvement of the Russian men in singles and what they brought to the ice -- starting for me with Alexander Fadeev, (somewhat Viacheslav Zagorodniuk), and then Ilia, Urmanov, Yagudin, and Plushenko. Yes, I thought Plushy was exciting, but that he began to rest on his laurels too much and didn't try to develop his artistic side more, relying instead mainly on his jumps and his charisma.

It was boring and predictable for a stretch, with sparks of interest such as Rudy, and I enjoyed witnessing Todd's growth. Emanuel Sandhu and Jeffrey Buttle began to show some of their beautiful artistry, and then Matt Savoie, Johnny Weir and Lambiel brought us to the heights of what men could do with creativity and smooth moves on the ice. They definitely influenced Dai and Jeremy, and the younger generation that is coming to the fore now with Patrick, Hanyu, Denis Ten, Javier, and Jason Brown. And those are just a few of the men that have so much possibility -- there is so much depth, particularly in the U.S. and Japan.

Because of the depth, I think there needs to be more opportunities to reward skaters (i.e., rewarding separate medals for sp and fp, and then an all-around final).

paskatefan
11-13-2011, 11:03 AM
Always loved the men's discipline the most, ever since I first watched Brian Orser skate in the 1984 Olympics. Then "The Battle of the Brians' did it for me. There was no turning back!

miki88
11-13-2011, 04:10 PM
I definitely think the men is the most exciting discipline now. Love Daisuke and the rising star Hanyu. :)

The Accordion
11-13-2011, 07:00 PM
Ever since I started watching skating - with Toller Cranston and his artistry and Russian split jumps above the boards (this is what I remember from being about 3or 4 and watching figure skating) the men's competition has been one of my favourites.

But what I love right now is there are so few fridge breaks and so many competitors I am truly interested in watching.

I know many people don't like what COP has done to skating and no - it is not perfect- but I love that it seems to have made a generation of male skaters who are rewarded for great skating skills and for paying attention to all aspects of their skating.

As much as I do love a beautiful jump- I enjoy beautiful edges, speed, great spins and footwork and great choreography just as much or more!

os168
11-13-2011, 09:07 PM
I definitely think the men is the most exciting discipline now. Love Daisuke and the rising star Hanyu. :)


Haha... I agree with you for once, especially Hanyu!!!

Most of the ladies however put me asleep... They need to show why ladies should still be the highlight SPORT event at the Olympics and not some pageantry contest where everyone want to be an European Princess trying not to fall.

bbkenn
11-13-2011, 09:19 PM
Ever since I started watching skating - with Toller Cranston and his artistry and Russian split jumps above the boards (this is what I remember from being about 3or 4 and watching figure skating) the men's competition has been one of my favourites.

But what I love right now is there are so few fridge breaks and so many competitors I am truly interested in watching.

As much as I do love a beautiful jump- I enjoy beautiful edges, speed, great spins and footwork and great choreography just as much or more!

I also love gorgeous edges, speed, but for me it's the footwork especially, since Kurt Browning and Scott Hamilton were masters at it.

bbkenn
11-13-2011, 09:20 PM
The men's division has been more interesting for quite awhile. I think it began to become more compelling (after a bit of a lull from the time of Curry and Cranston) with Boitano's influence, Bowman's brief magic, Paul (but his star mainly rose after the 92 Olympics in the professional ranks).

Also, a richness and diversity came with the improvement of the Russian men in singles and what they brought to the ice -- starting for me with Alexander Fadeev, (somewhat Viacheslav Zagorodniuk), and then Ilia, Urmanov, Yagudin, and Plushenko. Yes, I thought Plushy was exciting, but that he began to rest on his laurels too much and didn't try to develop his artistic side more, relying instead mainly on his jumps and his charisma.

It was boring and predictable for a stretch, with sparks of interest such as Rudy, and I enjoyed witnessing Todd's growth. Emanuel Sandhu and Jeffrey Buttle began to show some of their beautiful artistry, and then Matt Savoie, Johnny Weir and Lambiel brought us to the heights of what men could do with creativity and smooth moves on the ice. They definitely influenced Dai and Jeremy, and the younger generation that is coming to the fore now with Patrick, Hanyu, Denis Ten, Javier, and Jason Brown. And those are just a few of the men that have so much possibility -- there is so much depth, particularly in the U.S. and Japan.

Because of the depth, I think there needs to be more opportunities to reward skaters (i.e., rewarding separate medals for sp and fp, and then an all-around final).

And you can't discount the energy that came during Kurt Browning's era that of triple jumps, and that first quad, along with footwork, footwork, footwork...

Icetalavista
11-13-2011, 09:22 PM
Takahashi has already become one the The Great Ones for me, esp after watching his NHK freeskate. Charisma, musicality, confidence, technique, ability to deliver great choreo *really* well...he has it all. he's one of those skaters who I look forward to for the pure performance.

aftershocks
11-13-2011, 10:21 PM
And you can't discount the energy that came during Kurt Browning's era that of triple jumps, and that first quad, along with footwork, footwork, footwork...

Yes, I agree ... Boitano, Orser, and Browning who came after them as part of Bowman's generation, but Kurt became the King and Christopher fell from grace.

briancoogaert
11-14-2011, 09:45 AM
In this category (men), we are lucky to have so many great skaters : elements are big and controlled, edges and speed are good, and they have something to say on the ice (choreographies are interesting) !