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Gazpacho
03-18-2012, 11:02 PM
In some ways, I think things might have been different for Kate had Diana lived. If the coldness in the family had continued, Kate might have been forced to choose a side, and becoming close to her husband's mother might have actually worked against her. Plus, I believe that Diana's untimely death and the subsequent outpouring from her subjects as well as people around the world had quite an effect on the Queen, paving the way for the kind of warm and open relationship she now seems to have with Kate. And, I think Kate has more of a chance to establish her own personality - while the comparisons continue to happen, it would have been more so had Diana still been alive, active in her own charities, and in the celebrity spotlight.

Not saying I wish it either way, just thinking about what might have been.I agree, things may have been very different had Diana not died. It took Diana's suffering and the public outpouring after her death for The Firm to realize their dysfunctional qualities and become more compassionate to their own.

It's hard to believe that Diana was only 19 when she entered The Firm--the age of most college freshmen! Add to that her dysfunctional (Spencer) family, and no wonder she was so unready for royal life.

If Diana were still alive, assuming William and Kate did marry, I wonder whether there would have been more or less public stress on Kate due to the comparisons. Would people pay that much attention to her? How much would they have compared her to Diana? Also, what role would Diana have had in promoting or downplaying those comparisons?

Jenny
03-19-2012, 01:18 PM
LOVE LOVE LOVE that HRH is presenting the shamrocks to the Irish Guards (AND doggie!), just like HM The Queen Mum used to do! :swoon:

And she was wearing a shamrock brooch once worn by the Queen Mum while she did it!

What an honour that she was assigned a job previously performed by the Queen Mum.

Here's US Weekly's report - http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-middleton-sips-sherry-adorns-dog-with-shamrocks-on-st-patricks-day-2012173

AragornElessar
03-19-2012, 07:17 PM
The Royal Forums is reporting that the King of Tonga has passed away in a Hong Kong hospital. More info to come obviously.

Zemgirl
03-19-2012, 07:24 PM
The Royal Forums is reporting that the King of Tonga has passed away in a Hong Kong hospital. More info to come obviously.
I saw that earlier on Royalty in the News, though I hadn't noticed that he'd been relatively young. Looks like there's a fair bit of coverage from the NZ Herald (e.g. here (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10793257), here (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10793183) and here (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10793258)).

skatesindreams
03-19-2012, 07:41 PM
^^^
Thank you!
We don't learn/know enough about Tonga in the US.

Fergus
03-19-2012, 10:33 PM
We don't learn/know enough about Tonga in the US.

TOTALLY. In fact, not enough about Oceania in general, but I digress......

HM King George Tupou V of Tonga was the grandson of the famous Queen Salote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Queen_Salote_in_London.jpg), who was one of the "stars" of HMQ's Coronation.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DMqSRUl9_o) of HMQ & the DoE's 1953 visit to Tonga.

Phil always looked so dashing in his tropic white uniform. :swoon: Whatta hunk. ;)

Skittl1321
03-19-2012, 10:51 PM
^^^
Thank you!
We don't learn/know enough about Tonga in the US.

I read an awesome book about Tonga in college. It was on the syllabus for an anthropology class I wanted to take but couldn't fit into my schedule. Wouldn't have known the country existed otherwise...

Called "Voyages" if anyone is interested- not related to the monarchy though.

skatesindreams
03-20-2012, 06:14 PM
Newly discovered portraits of the young Queen and family:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-16932655

AragornElessar
03-20-2012, 07:25 PM
Daily Mail ~ Duchess of Cambridge recycles Reiss dress that her mother borrowed for first public address as patron of children's hospices charity (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2117068/Duchess-Cambridge-recycles-Reiss-dress-mother-Carole-Middleton-borrowed.html)

I thought the little of Kate's speech I saw and heard, that she did really well. It was noticable Kate was nervous, but considering it was her first and the World's Media was covering it and picking it apart word by word, she did very well indeed IMO.

edited to add...From the article...


A three-year-old broke the ice with Kate when she walked up her and declared : 'Hello Princess Kate, can you paint with me?'
Marnie Jennings had already met the Duchess when she joined a group of siblings taking part in a crafts session at the hospice.

But not content with her own chat with the Duchess, a few minutes later Marnie decided to muscle in on the action when the Duchess was painting a ceramic butterfly with her elder sister Brooke, 12, and another girl.

The girls’ mother Jeanette, 37, said: “She got out of her chair and went over and said: ‘Hello Princess Kate, can I paint with you?’'

The girls’s sister is Tilly Jennings, six, who has been coming to the hospice since she was three months old [in your press pack].

Mrs Jennings said: “Tilly started to get jealous and got up and went over as well. I think she thought Marnie was stealing her thunder.

“I thought ‘Oh no, if anyone was going to disgrace me it was my three-year-old.’ But Kate laughed. It broke the ice – nobody seemed quite so nervous

then. She was very friendly and approachable.'
Brooke said: 'I was cringeing a bit. She was going, "Princess Kate, let me do it for you. Look what I’m doing!" She said, "Oh OK,’ and let Marnie take over.
I was going, "Marnie, leave Kate alone." But then it was, "Oh well." She seemed very calm and cool and relaxed. She seemed to take it all in her stride. She was very nice and really pretty, and seemed really caring.'

Mrs Jennings said: 'Meetings a member of the Royal Family has been one of Tilly’s dreams. She has been so excited. This has meant her dream coming true.

'She has been carrying around Kate’s picture around with her ever since she knew she was going to meet her.'

First off...Awwww!!! Second...ROTFLOL!!! Leave it to a three year old to embrass her Mom at something big. :D They'll be telling that story on her from now to the end of time w/in the Family. :D

mag
03-21-2012, 01:07 AM
William and Kate have also shown up in a cartoon!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-and-prince-william-become-766822

AragornElessar
03-21-2012, 03:36 AM
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II recieved Addresses from both Houses of Parliament at the Palace of Westminster in London earlier today. She also gave her own address in reply and also reaffirmed the pledge of service she made so long ago in South Africa during that grand tour she and her late sister and parents made of that Country. As part of the Government of the UK marking the Diamond Jubliee, a Stained Glass window has been installed and was unveiled during today's events.

Getty Images ~ The Stained Glass Window to Commemorate HM Queen Elizabeth II's Diamond Jubliee in The Palace of Westminster (http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/guests-look-at-the-newly-commisioned-diamond-jubilee-news-photo/141616710?esource=webgains)

Only one thing comes to my mind on seeing that. Gor-geous!!

skatesindreams
03-21-2012, 04:05 PM
Kate makes first speech as Duchess of Cambridge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cmyK805fUs

She sounds and looks wonderful; so confident and natural.

Zemgirl
03-21-2012, 04:35 PM
I agree - she really is a natural (or someone who worked very hard to become one! ;)).

And now Kate will have some time off - Prince William is back in the UK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118111/Prince-William-completes-Falklands-tour-duty.html?ito=feeds-newsxml). He'll have to wait to see his dad, though, as Prince Charles is currently in Norway (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jXFUqVrmj3YPFt0vs-u3sW5kxQlw?docId=N1205251332212622227A) with Camilla as part of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebration.

milanessa
03-21-2012, 04:36 PM
Kate makes first speech as Duchess of Cambridge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cmyK805fUs

She sounds and looks wonderful; so confident and natural.

She made a valiant effort and looks great but.......confident and natural???? I think that'll come but it'll take a bit more practice. ;)

AragornElessar
03-21-2012, 07:36 PM
As has been pointed out in some places though, perhaps that very slow style wasn't so much Kate's nerves, as it was due to that *and* hearing impaired and/or mentally impaired people being in the audience and EACH having asked Kate's staff to make sure the speech was delivered that way. So that *everyone* attending the event was able to understand the speech.

We don't know if that is what happened, but it's something to think of considering where she was and who she was speaking to if that had been the case. Combine that w/her nerves and...Not an excuse, but also not something that isn't out of the realm of possiblity either. :)

I still think that when this speech was going to be aired in some portion all around the World and then picked apart word by word and gesture by gesture by people who don't do Public Speaking on a regular basis and/or just despise Kate for whatever twisted reason and would roast her regardless of how she did delivering her very first speech as a Royal and...I stand by what I said on Monday. She did very well indeed!!

Queen Beatrix is paying her first State Visit since her son's tragic accident to Luxembourg. The State Dinner was last night and both HM and Grand Duchess Teresa looked good IMO.

Daylife ~ Official Pictures before the State Dinner (http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01vu9u53WT0LV/610x.jpg)

Especially The Grand Duchess, as I find she can be *very* hit and miss w/her Gala Dresses. This one works though.

edited to add...The Danish Royals have released the first portraits of their newest littlest Princess and Family.

Joachim, Marie and the boys w/their little Princess (http://kongehuset.dk/Menu/foto--video/den-nye-prinsesse)

Adore the one where Nikolai is holding her w/Felix sitting beside them.