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Tak
10-28-2011, 02:01 AM
The difference between the ISU and sports like the NFL is money.

Well - I could be flip here and say that isnt the only difference. The NFL is a sport that cares about (1) increasing its fan base and (2) pleasing its existing fans by doing things like giving them easy access to more games. :P

Seriously though I understand your points and to some extent I can see it, but in this day and age I dont see why they cant have live streaming or at least archive access from their website. TV coverage of football games is very good in the US, but the NFL still thought it worthwhile to set this up for their fans. Figure skating coverage is absolute crap in most countries - here in Japan we only get good coverage of singles [and not always live]. For pairs and dance we have to wait 2-3 weeks for it to be televised. It's a smaller fan base obviously - but I bet a large percentage of the fans they have would be willing to pay for that kind of access. And making it so readily available might help attract people to the sport, you never know.

Aussie Willy
10-28-2011, 03:36 AM
Seriously though I understand your points and to some extent I can see it, but in this day and age I dont see why they cant have live streaming or at least archive access from their website. TV coverage of football games is very good in the US, but the NFL still thought it worthwhile to set this up for their fans. Figure skating coverage is absolute crap in most countries - here in Japan we only get good coverage of singles [and not always live]. For pairs and dance we have to wait 2-3 weeks for it to be televised. It's a smaller fan base obviously - but I bet a large percentage of the fans they have would be willing to pay for that kind of access. And making it so readily available might help attract people to the sport, you never know.

Well the only coverage we ever get in Australia is the Olympics and even then it is pretty crap, unless you have pay TV and they showed everything on that. Still you then had to subscribe for 12 months of service. They used to show figure skating in Australia back in the 80s and 90s (usually just top 3 and about 6 months after the event) but we haven't had worlds or anything like that for years. So you have probably got more than what we ever had.

The worst part about it is it put the sport out of people's minds so our actual sport suffered here with decreased numbers. We do always get a slight boost around Olympics but one of the biggest boosts came with Dancing on Ice when they did the Australian version.

I think the video clips of the JGP has been a real bonus this year and they have posted every skater or couple. So that is fulfilling part of what people are wanting to see them do. In fact their latest number of subscribers is 2,683 (direct from the channel). And there have been 2,003,813 upload views. That is not bad at all.

Tak
10-28-2011, 04:05 AM
In fact their latest number of subscribers is 2,683 (direct from the channel). And there have been 2,003,813 upload views. That is not bad at all.

No - that is great! And it shows how big the potential market could be. Maybe this will get them thinking about offering something like a season pass.:)

Wyliefan
10-28-2011, 04:08 AM
Always makes me sing "Why can't a woman be more like a man?"

Me too. :lol:

Ziggy
10-28-2011, 05:20 AM
I know that ISU was taking the JGP clips very seriously (organisers had to upload the performances straight away) and I sincerely hope that it's just first step of many to come.


Youtube, that's the only place I really can watch FS vids, I have no TV. :lol:

http://www.fsvids.net/

I have a tv but I much prefer to watch online.

Nothing like Russian tv which usually shows all of the skaters and where the commentators don't keep talking bullshit over the performances.

Tak
10-28-2011, 10:21 AM
http://www.fsvids.net/

I have a tv but I much prefer to watch online.

Nothing like Russian tv which usually shows all of the skaters and where the commentators don't keep talking bullshit over the performances.

I clicked that link but it said I needed a sponsor or a sponsor-number in order to join - what's up with that and how do I get one? Do you know?

Ziggy
10-28-2011, 11:45 AM
I clicked that link but it said I needed a sponsor or a sponsor-number in order to join - what's up with that and how do I get one? Do you know?

One of the current FSVids members can invite you. I'll PM you. :)

AndyWarhol
10-29-2011, 01:35 PM
Well the only coverage we ever get in Australia is the Olympics and even then it is pretty crap, unless you have pay TV and they showed everything on that. Still you then had to subscribe for 12 months of service. They used to show figure skating in Australia back in the 80s and 90s (usually just top 3 and about 6 months after the event) but we haven't had worlds or anything like that for years. So you have probably got more than what we ever had.

The worst part about it is it put the sport out of people's minds so our actual sport suffered here with decreased numbers. We do always get a slight boost around Olympics but one of the biggest boosts came with Dancing on Ice when they did the Australian version.

I think the video clips of the JGP has been a real bonus this year and they have posted every skater or couple. So that is fulfilling part of what people are wanting to see them do. In fact their latest number of subscribers is 2,683 (direct from the channel). And there have been 2,003,813 upload views. That is not bad at all.


I really wish they would have skating on TV more here. I know a lot of people (yes, mostly woman) who would watch skating if it was on TV. The Olympic coverage is ridiculous. Belinda Noonan and Sandy Roberts make me cringe, then last year we have Eddie McGuire and Mick Malloy calling Johnny a "poof". No wonder no one takes the sport seriously in Australia. And with so few people wanting to skate, the prices for training and session times are ridiculous (In Melbourne at least. In Perth it is much cheaper/more freestyle sessions).

End rant.

Ziggy
10-30-2011, 08:24 PM
Well it's the men in executive positions at tv networks, making the decisions on what gets shown and what doesn't. :shuffle:

GarrAarghHrumph
10-31-2011, 02:16 AM
Well it's the men in executive positions at tv networks, making the decisions on what gets shown and what doesn't. :shuffle:

Errr... nope. That's not what's behind these decisions, to be honest. In the US, it's about ratings and target markets. Most US TV attracts women, and the reality is, there are way cheaper ways to reach the same women that figure skating attracts. As an advertiser, there are *way* cheaper ways to reach this particular target market. So figure skating loses out not only to higher rated TV shows and sports, but also to other TV shows/sports that get the same ratings, because the cost per target market eyeball in figure skating is higher than my other options.