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Macassar88
11-03-2012, 10:58 PM
oh really? what happened?

They placed third in both events - usually the top 6 all have two silvers/golds or a gold and a bronze.

jtpc
11-04-2012, 01:09 PM
3 straight events now where Weaver and Poje's FD spin and diagonal step sequence have been called a level 2 (Ondrej Nepela, Skate America and Cup of China). When are they going to look at tweaking those? The spin matches the character of the program nicely, but they can't be giving up 2 whole points at Worlds. The difference between a level 2 and 3 diagonal step sequence is 1.5 points. A level 4 spin alone would have kept them 2nd in China.

Marta24
11-04-2012, 02:58 PM
I don't care what the judges say. Weaver/Poje's FD is amazing and a masterpiece. I hope they won't change now their FD to something more traditional!

I am so sad for them,sometimes it's like they are running against a wall and I think they deserve much more recognition and respect than they get right now.

shan
11-04-2012, 03:24 PM
I don't care what the judges say. Weaver/Poje's FD is amazing and a masterpiece. I hope they won't change now their FD to something more traditional!

I am so sad for them,sometimes it's like they are running against a wall and I think they deserve much more recognition and respect than they get right now.

But I'm sure there are small things they could change here or there that would enable them to get higher scores without sacrificing their "masterpiece".

Marta24
11-04-2012, 03:34 PM
But I'm sure there are small things they could change here or there that would enable them to get higher scores without sacrificing their "masterpiece".

Of course! Maybe with more transitions they could improve their PCS and they have to raise their levels in the spin and steps.Maybe it's good for them to not getting into the GPF, so they have more training time until Canadians.

sap5
11-04-2012, 10:05 PM
I hope they go back and take out some of the cuts in their SD. With such well-known music, so many cuts distract from the skating. The audience spends time thinking of the next song, and stops paying attention to the skating.

Tak
11-05-2012, 03:12 AM
I hope they go back and take out some of the cuts in their SD. With such well-known music, so many cuts distract from the skating. The audience spends time thinking of the next song, and stops paying attention to the skating.

I think it's worse than that. It seems to me that they are also too distracted [if that's the right word] by that constant music change. It changes so often it seemed to me they couldnt really connect to it to any great extent and at times lost all connection to the rhythm. IMO this program would work a lot better artistically and technically if they would limit themselves to 2 songs.

zilam98
11-05-2012, 03:56 AM
I think it's worse than that. It seems to me that they are also too distracted [if that's the right word] by that constant music change. It changes so often it seemed to me they couldnt really connect to it to any great extent and at times lost all connection to the rhythm. IMO this program would work a lot better artistically and technically if they would limit themselves to 2 songs.

my thoughts as well. i really loved the idea of their SD to the sound of music, but their music cuts are way too much.

arakwafan2006
11-05-2012, 03:55 PM
They work so hard in practice that I can understand their look of frustration. The Russian pair passing them had to be salt in a wound for them. They definitely can make the necessary changes to step up the program. Its a competitive sport out there but they have the goods not to mention the look of champions.

Macassar88
11-05-2012, 04:19 PM
They work so hard in practice that I can understand their look of frustration. The Russian pair passing them had to be salt in a wound for them. They definitely can make the necessary changes to step up the program. Its a competitive sport out there but they have the goods not to mention the look of champions.
I definitely don't think they will just step aside - although I would also think you were crazy if you think that Bobrova and Soloviev will stagnate from now until worlds (presumably the next time they would meet).
As a fan of both teams, I hope they both make significant improvements every day and both skate amazing programs at every competition. That's what will make a great rivalry and make them both improve the most.

tut88
11-12-2012, 07:16 PM
I don't think Judges bother so much about the SD's cuts of music.
This is not a music contest.

I think they need to improuve the FD, technically change something, and skate better to have some higher goe.

Of course RUssians will push to put their couple higher for Sochi ... ( Ilinik in the GPFInal is a prouve)
So, I hope they will go back to work with ALL the team, to try to recover this season !

Twilight1
11-12-2012, 09:33 PM
I really want to see Virtue & Moir and Weaver & Poje on the podium at World's. It would totally make my trip worth it!

I do think they really need to up the technical and get that connection with the audience with their FD. Their SD is wonderful though

bmcg
11-17-2012, 04:58 PM
I don't think Judges bother so much about the SD's cuts of music.
This is not a music contest.

I think they need to improuve the FD, technically change something, and skate better to have some higher goe.

Of course RUssians will push to put their couple higher for Sochi ... ( Ilinik in the GPFInal is a prouve)
So, I hope they will go back to work with ALL the team, to try to recover this season !

I agree about the SD. I don't think there is anything wrong with it and the music cut is just a personal preference. I don't find the SD is worse than their main competitors.

I LOVED the FD when they debuted but now that everyone has their FD's out there and we see which ones are being rewarded they might need to add some more transitions and difficulty to compete and make it impossible for the judges to ignore. I also don't think their FD is any worse then B&S, P&B and C&L. It definitely isn't worse then I&K. For the sake of this post I will just assume at this stage V&M and D&W are unbeatable. Unfortunately for them having a SD and FD that isn't any worse than their closest competitors isn't going to be enough for them as momentum at the moment seems to be with B&S and C&L. Just too crowded there around the podium that it could come down to judges preference and right now I see that with B&S and C&L.

Marta24
11-29-2012, 06:31 PM
PJ interviewed Weaver/Poje:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8etK07dLCYc&feature=youtu.be&a

clarie
11-29-2012, 07:15 PM
So they reworked their programs......good for them. I really hope it all works out for them.