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SkateFan66
10-15-2011, 12:24 AM
The EL and FC are saying a lot of nothing ... But will he be in France next month?

The statement on the U.S. Figure Skating website stated that Lysacek withdrew from both SA and TEB.

jlai
10-15-2011, 12:29 AM
Great for Razzano, though I'm curious why Messing isn't the first alternate. Is it because he's already assigned to a competition the following week? But then I assume skaters know there's a great possibility the next in line will be competing at SA so perhaps Messing knew he'd not be competing at SA?

manleywoman
10-15-2011, 12:29 AM
Financial issues. Hmmmm.

ChelleC
10-15-2011, 12:37 AM
Quite interesting reasoning. Not shocked he's not doing the GP though.

Carolla5501
10-15-2011, 01:00 AM
Well he waited long enough to tell us LOL!

Carolla5501
10-15-2011, 01:08 AM
Darn, I was looking forward to seeing him skate competitively again. According to Phil's article he quotes Carroll as saying that Evan is not injured and then he
gives some kind of mumbo jumbo reason regarding the Federation. What is that supposed to mean.

It means that Evan knew USFSA was planning to profit off him to sell tickets (which isn't going well) and wanted a cut. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.

USFSA tends to want to profit off thier athletes as do most sports governing bodies. Figure skaters have tradionally just been "grateful" for handouts, but... it's really a business and it's up to them and thier team to get them the best deal for thier talents. Evan doesn't "need" a Skate America and it could actually hurt his "marketablity" if he went and didn't win. Skate America "needed" an Evan. OGM sells tickets! If Evan wanted to be "compensated" for the risk then IMHO that's fine.

I think it would have been nice if this had been dealt with sooner, but.... considering that we don't have an "offical" location for Nationals 2013 and the fact that the location for Skate America 2011 was announced three or four months in advance, it fits the trend..

bartek
10-15-2011, 01:09 AM
Is Evan Sasha's friend?

SkateFan66
10-15-2011, 01:25 AM
It means that Evan knew USFSA was planning to profit off him to sell tickets (which isn't going well) and wanted a cut. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.

I doubt that Lysacek wanted a "cut of the profits" from Skate America. IMO, Lysacek wanted funding, and USFSA would not agree. It could explain why USFSA had not even placed Lysacek on the Reserve Team envelope.

sassybuford
10-15-2011, 01:36 AM
Evan's tweet:

I regret to inform that I am withdrawing from the 2011 Grand Prix Series. I am extremely trained and eager to compete at Skate America, but a suitable agreement could not be reached between US Figure Skating and myself by the event entry deadline. I'm extremely disappointed in this turn of events, but I hope to be back on competitive ice this season.

FigureSpins
10-15-2011, 01:40 AM
That's too bad - I would have liked to see him skate again in competition.

It's a bold move to tak about the diiiirtyyyyy monnnneeeeey. (Bug Bunny reference)
I wonder if Frank Carroll spoke out of turn? Hope not.

If the envelope funding is for the season, wouldn't that mean he's not going to skate at Nationals, either, because they couldn't come to terms? 4CC's, the Team Competition and Worlds, would also be out of the picture if he didn't skate nationals.

kwanette
10-15-2011, 01:54 AM
I took it as a disagreement over "appearance fees"..not the traditional funding or a "cut"..

Mayra
10-15-2011, 02:03 AM
If the envelope funding is for the season, wouldn't that mean he's not going to skate at Nationals, either, because they couldn't come to terms? 4CC's, the Team Competition and Worlds, would also be out of the picture if he didn't skate nationals.

I don't think Evan's problem was with envelope funding but more to do with an outside contract that would pay him $$ for an appearance at Skate America.
I doubt if TEB was ever in his plans.

SamuraiK
10-15-2011, 02:07 AM
I have always felt Evan gets badly and childishly treated in this board but honestly Im more happy about Doug getting Skate American than him not competing.

LilJen
10-15-2011, 02:30 AM
Weird, the whole financial side of things. Weird. Not surprised at all by him opting out, but I have to wonder what goes on behind the scenes with money. I feel very uninformed!

olifaunt
10-15-2011, 02:34 AM
I took it as a disagreement over "appearance fees"..not the traditional funding or a "cut"..

Do other people get appearance fees? I thought all the money in the grand prix was from prizes.