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nubka
10-20-2011, 04:52 AM
It's called "eligible", as in ISU and/or Olympic-eligible - and I imagine that top skaters can make a pretty good living staying "eligible" (and some much better than that, and more power to those that can).

Eligible/amatuer, I've heard both terms used. It still seems wacko that some top skaters get "paid" by their federation to show up at big-time competitions. Yes, more power to them... :shuffle:

oleada
10-20-2011, 05:16 AM
It is not unusual in other sports for top stars to get an appearance fee, so I'm not sure why it's such a big deal in figure skating. That said, I don't think Evan would pull as many people who wouldn't go to the event anyway - not like say, Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal would (I can only speak about tennis; it's the only sport I know similarly to FS)

victoriaheidi
10-20-2011, 06:29 AM
It is not unusual in other sports for top stars to get an appearance fee, so I'm not sure why it's such a big deal in figure skating. That said, I don't think Evan would pull as many people who wouldn't go to the event anyway - not like say, Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal would (I can only speak about tennis; it's the only sport I know similarly to FS)

Yeah, I don't get why he'd expect a ton of money since I really don't think he's such a big draw. He's not that famous (being on DWTS does not make a person famous).

skateboy
10-20-2011, 06:32 AM
I think Evan has a decent amount of celebrity pull, not so much from OGM, but from being runner-up on Dancing with the Stars.

victoriaheidi
10-20-2011, 06:50 AM
I think Evan has a decent amount of celebrity pull, not so much from OGM, but from being runner-up on Dancing with the Stars.

But still, most people couldn't identify Evan Lysacek. That's not to say that he doesn't have a fan base, but I can't imagine people traveling just for Evan or something like that.

Face it: the place they needed to pull from was SoCal. I'm having a tough enough time convincing my family to go with me (I thought I'd be getting SkAm tickets as my 18th birthday present. I thought wrong!).

loulou
10-20-2011, 12:08 PM
In my book, if he did in fact move somewhere to make things better for himself financially, that is being both grown up and smart. People do it all the time.

That's true, expecially referring to people with means.

The fact it happens all the time and rules are designed to allow it, doesn't make it right, though.
Infact, it's one of the reasons the western economies ended belly up, and are now risking a double dip.

I don't call it grown up or smart.
Actually, I think it's pretty short sighted: from what I read here, the federation is alredy suffering now due to this economy; soon enough there will be very litttle room left for any negotiation at all, for any skater at all.

I guess we have different books.



Living in a STATE that does not have a STATE income tax does not equate to "cutting financial support to the COUNTRY." There are several STATES that do not have a STATE income tax. Lysacek still has to pay FEDERAL income tax even if he lives in a state that does not have a STATE income tax.

How does Nevada pay for any service that's not on federal books? I suppose those should include schools, streets, parks, local police maybe?

crystalice
10-20-2011, 12:43 PM
What is an amateur these days?

What Evan did. A really smart act for business. :lol:

Rex
10-20-2011, 01:11 PM
As Evan has found out, he is NOT the Kween. :P

Maybe not THE Kween, dear....

SkateFan66
10-20-2011, 01:33 PM
Loulou,

To answer your question, states that do not have state income taxes still collect revenue thru other taxes. In particular, many states with no state income tax have higher property tax than those states that have a state income tax.

LilJen
10-20-2011, 01:34 PM
How does Nevada pay for any service that's not on federal books? I suppose those should include schools, streets, parks, local police maybe?
Like any other state? Sales taxes, your car registration, taxes on cigarettes and alcohol, property taxes, county/city income taxes, etc?? Erm, and casinos?

Zemgirl
10-20-2011, 01:36 PM
How does Nevada pay for any service that's not on federal books? I suppose those should include schools, streets, parks, local police maybe?
I'm by no means familiar with Nevada's tax laws, but there are taxes other than income tax that can bring in revenue. For instance: sales tax, property tax, or, to give a highly relevant example for that state - hotel taxes. I'm sure a quick search online will get you additional information on how Nevada funds public services.

Evan Lysacek is not obligated to pay the most taxes possible. He's obligated to pay what's legally required of him.

BittyBug
10-20-2011, 01:56 PM
OT, but what's interesting about Nevada is that it's sort of an anachronism among states that receive far less in federal funding than they contribute via federal taxes (http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html), in that most of the states that fall into that category are traditionally "blue" states that are either on the Pac Coast or in the North East or Great Lakes regions. Nevada ranks 49th out of all states, receiving only $0.65 for each dollar paid in, with only New Jersey receiving less.

Separately, most of Nevada is owned by the Federal government (http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/pdf/fedlands/fedlands3.pdf).

hirshey girl
10-20-2011, 02:02 PM
I'm by no means familiar with Nevada's tax laws, but there are taxes other than income tax that can bring in revenue. For instance: sales tax, property tax, or, to give a highly relevant example for that state - hotel taxes. I'm sure a quick search online will get you additional information on how Nevada funds public services.

Evan Lysacek is not obligated to pay the most taxes possible. He's obligated to pay what's legally required of him.

I live in a state with no state income tax and we have a fairly high sales tax (over 9%) to generate the income. States will get their income one way or another. :blah:

Zemgirl
10-20-2011, 02:11 PM
I live in a state with no state income tax and we have a fairly high sales tax (over 9%) to generate the income. States will get their income one way or another. :blah:
Considering the VAT rate here, 9% sounds awfully good to me... and we do have income tax as well. I think 9% is probably high for the US, but in many countries it would be considered a vast improvement!

In my American days I lived in Oregon, which has no sales tax at all. That was nice.

hirshey girl
10-20-2011, 03:57 PM
Considering the VAT rate here, 9% sounds awfully good to me... and we do have income tax as well. I think 9% is probably high for the US, but in many countries it would be considered a vast improvement!

In my American days I lived in Oregon, which has no sales tax at all. That was nice.

We lived in Oregon for about 2 years and definitely miss the no sales tax! Our sales tax is currently at 9.25 and they also started a state lottery about 5 years ago (after much drama). Sorry, got a bit OT! Regarding Evan, I get the distinct impression that some posters will not be happy with anything he does unless he turns over his OGM to Plushy then asked to be publicly flogged for accepting it in the 1st place. :rofl: