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nubka
10-18-2011, 02:40 AM
Wasn't there a thread a while back with photos of Evan's new spread? IIRC it looked pretty ritzy. A pauper like me couldn't afford it. :D



I've read some of the snarky comments on Evan's apartment condo, and his furnishings which apparently come's cheap to some. There must be some pretty rich posters here. :shuffle: Not all of us could afford such accomodations living alone. Maybe with a roommate-or two. Some people have gone to live back with their parents after losing their jobs in this hard economy. This coming from someone who has boarded in rooms before to save as much as I could for a car, and other necessities.

:violin::violin::violin:

For me, this has nothing to do with $$$, it has to do with his decorator's taste, lol!! :lol:

tiredout
10-18-2011, 03:08 AM
For being figure skating fans you people are grossly misinformed on a lot of counts. First of all, to clear up what has really happened between Evan and the USFS, all of the skaters have contracts. As far back as July my friend was talking to Evan in Sun Valley and asking him about competing in SA. He said he still didn't know because he did not have a contract yet. These contracts do cover financial issues, the bigger the skater the more they would get for appearance fees, but also such issues as agreeing ot to participate in activities that would be dangerous such as skiing, surfing, snowboarding, etc.

Evan is being represented by a new management team this year, CCA, one that represents other pro athletes. Evan never said a word about the dispute being about money. Barb Reichert, a rep from USFS, told Phil Hersh that it was over finances. Evan may be worth 2.5 million dollars, but skating is his job. Right now he is not making any professional appearances. He made the statement at the presentation of his USOC athlete of the award that his goal was to try for Sochi. Everyone present applauded and was very excited. Let's face it, The state of men's skating in the US isn't in great shape. If it were, we wouldn't have lost a spot on the World team last year. I don't even think there is a prayer for any American man to even medal on the GP this season. Possibly Abbott or Rippon or Dornbush if they get lucky and hold it together and don't blow these quads they are working on.

The reason Evan does not have any pro appearances at the present is because he is dead serious about training and competing. He knew he had a lot of work to do to get ready. He turned all invitations to do Disson shows and anything else so he could concentrate on training. He does have a quad toe again. The brace that was worn on his left leg was because his left foot was acting up again because of training, but it has healed.

Skating is Evan's job and he deserves to be compensated for it. He is also the first OGM to return to competition. All the others, since Dick Button, retired after winning theirs. After spending last year touring and meeting with sponsors, etc., Evan decided that what made him the happiest was training and competing. He also knows that he does not have to win to be successful. Everday on the ice is his Olympic moment because he is doing what he loves and it is something he doesn't have to be doing. He doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. Someone made a snarky comment about Evan's ability to skate, but he has earned every skating title there is to earn. If he has done that, I think it proves he can skate. He is the most consistent skater and one with great mental toughness. He never implodes or loses his cool. Even when he is having a bad day on the ice, look at 2009 Nationals, he keeps fighting and finishes his program and completes every element.

Yes he made mistakes at 2009 and 2010 Nationals that were very disappointing to him. But those mishaps made him go back and work with his choreoghrapher for three weeks in Canada and did everything she suggested, the result being a stellar program at Worlds and a Gold Medal. A medal a Worlds trumps a medal at Nationals. Same thing at 2010 Nationals. They decided to try some new things in his program. It was a disaster so they returned to the original program. He began having problems with his old injury and therefore did everything he could to get points out of the programs he had without a quad. And we all know the results. An Olympic Gold Medal.

Evan has every right to be in negotiations with USFS. He would never be turning down a contract and withdrawing from a competition unless he really believed it was necessary. You people don't know Evan Lysacek very well at all. He is a man of honesty and integrity. He knows how important it is to be competing in order to make a run for Sochi. He isn't just out there on the ice fooling around. Dan Hollander who skated with him on the ice in Sun Valley said he never saw Evan in better shape and skate better than he did in Sun Valley. It has been rumored that he was going to keep his El Tango de Roxanne as a SP with a music change and some changes in the program. Can you imagine how great that would be? He has not announced to his fans what his FS music is. He did have to skate his programs before a review panel of judges. I think you can say he is serious about competing and not playing silly games.

Last Friday was the deadline for WD from SA. They had not settled on a contract, so Evan had to WD. If they settle before TEB, I don't know if he will be able to skate there or not. The contract has to be settled 60 days before Nationals in order for Evan to skate, which gives them 4 weeks. I hope they settle this stalemate because sides have a lot to lose. USFS has been looking for a superstar ever since the absence of Michelle Kwan. They have one now and they are fools not to negotiate with him and utilize Evan to help build up the sport. Also most of the sponsors USFS has are because Evan spent the entire past year when he wasn't touring and sometimes when he was meeting with sponsors and potential sponsors. He is a very smart man and a very good ambassador for USFS. So I say to USFS, pay up.

When Kwan stepped in for Sarah Hughes, she was paid a pretty hefty appearance fee. In the days of big TV contracts, most skaters were paid six figure appearance fees. Also, Evan did not buy an Aston Martin, he bought an Audi Sports car. I wish you would get your facts straight when you talk about a person. Also, Evan most likely got that house in Las Vegas for a song. Most of Las Vegas is on sale because of foreclosures and the house was not in very good shape when he bought it. His father did the renovations. Living in Nevada gives Evan a really good tax break because they do not have a state income tax. Evan is a smart guy and I think USFS is finding that out. They are not dealing with a young kid who is still wet behind the ears, but a grown man who knows what he is about. Give him some credit. He had no intention of WD from SA and no intention of WD from Nationals. Why would he be training so hard otherwise, learning new combination jumps and new spins, training quads, etc?

tkaug
10-18-2011, 03:09 AM
So he gave up competing because he could not prepare for a quad?

Sylvia
10-18-2011, 03:16 AM
Evan is being represented by a new management team this year, CCA, one that represents other pro athletes.
CAA -- Creative Artists Agency in Los Angeles: http://www.officialevanlysacek.com/blog/?page_id=36


The state of men's skating in the US isn't in great shape. If it were, we wouldn't have lost a spot on the World team last year. I don't even think there is a prayer for any American man to even medal on the GP this season. Possibly Abbott or Rippon or Dornbush if they get lucky and hold it together and don't blow these quads they are working on.
Okaaaaay.

casken
10-18-2011, 03:25 AM
Well that was a whole bunch of words that didn't clear up anything. Good job!

BittyBug
10-18-2011, 03:35 AM
Let's face it, The state of men's skating in the US isn't in great shape. If it were, we wouldn't have lost a spot on the World team last year. I don't even think there is a prayer for any American man to even medal on the GP this season. Possibly Abbott or Rippon or Dornbush if they get lucky and hold it together and don't blow these quads they are working on.:rofl:


He is also the first OGM to return to competition. All the others, since Dick Button, retired after winning theirs.Let me introduce you to the 1994 OGM, Alexei Urmanov, and the 2002 OGM, Alexei Yagudin. :saint: I guess that must have been their evil twins out there on the ice after they won their OGMs. :shuffle:

oleada
10-18-2011, 03:38 AM
Don't forget FSU's favorite, Plushenko :D

BittyBug
10-18-2011, 03:41 AM
Oh man, I deserve to have my Plush fan card taken away. :wall: How did I forget about the man with an Olympic medal in every color? :plush:

Cherub721
10-18-2011, 03:43 AM
Oh man, I deserve to have my Plush fan card taken away. :wall: How did I forget about the man with an Olympic medal in every color? :plush:

One gold and two silver. And one platinum. ;) No bronze!

And let's not forget Petrenko, and, if we're talking about Americans, Brian Boitano.

Proustable
10-18-2011, 03:45 AM
So Boitano, Petrenko, Urmanov, Yagudin and Plushenko all continued or returned to competition since winning the Olympic gold medal. Wow. For a post that opened with a lecture about figure skating fans being grossly misinformed, that's quite the miss to make.

centerpt1
10-18-2011, 03:46 AM
Hmm, the mens team manged to get 3 spots in 2010 with Rippon and Abbott.


Well that was a whole bunch of words that didn't clear up anything. Good job!

I dunno- it cleared up a good bit for me.

I think perhaps Evan and Agency have overestimated his worth.

Moka-Ananas
10-18-2011, 03:47 AM
Oh wow...this REALLY comes as a surprise...

BittyBug
10-18-2011, 03:52 AM
One gold and two silver. And one platinum. ;) No bronze! :slinkaway...... You're right, of course. :o I keep thinking it was bronze in SLC, but that of course went to Timmy.

Off to make my penance to Edvin Marton......

Cherub721
10-18-2011, 03:56 AM
:slinkaway...... You're right, of course. :o I keep thinking it was bronze in SLC, but that of course went to Timmy.

Off to make my penance to Edvin Marton......

Make sure you download a couple of Dima Bilan songs, too. :D

Louise
10-18-2011, 04:34 AM
For being figure skating fans you people are grossly misinformed on a lot of counts......

Skating is Evan's job and he deserves to be compensated for it. He is also the first OGM to return to competition. All the others, since Dick Button, retired after winning theirs.

Are you serious? Is this Tanya? If you're going to be snarky and accusing some of fs fans of being 'grossly misinformed', I need to better inform you of some skating history.

Let's see. Ondrej Nepela competed for another season after he won the Olympics in 1972. Brian Boitano (1988) and Viktor Petrenko (1992) also did 'return to competition' after skating pro. Alexei Urmanov (1994) continued on until 1999. Alexei Yagudin (2002) returned to competition but retired due to injury. Evgeny Plushenko (2006) also returned to competition.

Sir/Madame, you are the one who seems 'grossly misinformed'. The rest of what you write means about nil to me, since you have shown you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

Nice playing with you. Better luck next time.