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shan
10-16-2011, 05:57 PM
i dont know why at this point anyone still thinks that this is only a dance competition

:huh: It's not strictly based on dancing????? I feel so misled and betrayed! :drama: :lol:

Oreo
10-16-2011, 06:13 PM
I like Maks even more now, and he brings up a good point about the producers calling the shots and twisting things around. It's like over on American Idol, the judges' controversies always come off as so fake; it's all producer scripted. The only reason I don't mute the sound when the judges are talking on DWTS is I enjoy Tom Bergeron's repartee. Maybe that's scripted too.

pixie cut
10-16-2011, 06:26 PM
i dont know why at this point anyone still thinks that this is only a dance competition

This is television, but there is dancing involved, so you'd like to think it counts for a little something. :rolleyes: Guess not. :yikes:

AYS
10-16-2011, 06:34 PM
I like Maks even more now, and he brings up a good point about the producers calling the shots and twisting things around. It's like over on American Idol, the judges' controversies always come off as so fake; it's all producer scripted. The only reason I don't mute the sound when the judges are talking on DWTS is I enjoy Tom Bergeron's repartee. Maybe that's scripted too.
While some of his repartee may be scripted, he's too good at coming up with fabulous snarky remarks when obviously unplanned stuff happens, so I'm sure it's not all scripted; I'd say I'll bet the majority of his stuff isn't scripted. Now clearly a lot of Brooke's stuff is scripted, and she's still horrendous at it.


This is television, but there is dancing involved, so you'd like to think it counts for a little something. :rolleyes: Guess not. :yikes:

Well, mlp did say "....anyone still thinks that this is only a dance competition..." I think it's pretty clear the dancing does count for part of it; I've certainly been won over by the dancing itself for various contestants, apart from fandom, personality, etc. But all that other stuff weighs in with the dancing and why shouldn't it? It's entertaining this way. It is what it is. :)

kwanfan1818
10-16-2011, 06:49 PM
I usually fast-forward through the judges' commentary, but this week I was too lazy for the last show. FWIW, Len Goodman did give JR credit where it was due, and said the same thing.

I think it's remarkable that Solo continues to train with her team at the same time she does DWTS. She's constantly shifting between something physical in which she's expert, using different muscle sets, to something in which she is a beginner.

I find her behind-the-scenes comments fascinating, because they show her way of approaching a problem, breaking it down, and working it through. At one point, she gets ripped for her walk, which Maks was trying to get her to learn with the proper technique and style. She said something to the effect that it's three seconds of a routine, and she's not going to spend limited time for three seconds out of two minutes. Of course, she's not expert enough to know which three seconds are more critical than others.

I thought Chynna Phillips had the talent to go much farther. Without a huge fan base though, Maks' commentary sounds like figure skating fans vs. those who watch skating once every four years: Chynna's mistake was so obvious to the casual fans who are oblivious to other dancers' more constant mistakes and weaknesses. Casual fans don't care about technique any more than casual fans care about the lutz vs. the flutz or underrotations or about transitions. They just know and care that skater X fell and skater Y didn't.

Philips' Wikipedia bio said that she had been treated for anxiety. She came across to me for the last two weeks as a bit affectless, which was not going to inspire many non-affiliated fans who watch and vote, as opposed to votes generated football team booster clubs rallying the troupes around a player, or interest groups and blogs around a contestant, where the voters don't even have to know what channel the show is on to push their preferred candidate.

danceronice
10-17-2011, 03:46 AM
I find her behind-the-scenes comments fascinating, because they show her way of approaching a problem, breaking it down, and working it through. At one point, she gets ripped for her walk, which Maks was trying to get her to learn with the proper technique and style. She said something to the effect that it's three seconds of a routine, and she's not going to spend limited time for three seconds out of two minutes. Of course, she's not expert enough to know which three seconds are more critical than others.

Sadly, in rumba, that's the walks. Even pros drill them.


I thought Chynna Phillips had the talent to go much farther. Without a huge fan base though, Maks' commentary sounds like figure skating fans vs. those who watch skating once every four years: Chynna's mistake was so obvious to the casual fans who are oblivious to other dancers' more constant mistakes and weaknesses. Casual fans don't care about technique any more than casual fans care about the lutz vs. the flutz or underrotations or about transitions. They just know and care that skater X fell and skater Y didn't.

While I think Chaz should have gone before her (like the week prior), in this case I think Chynna just failed too completely. I don't think anyone (shy of, say, Master P, who was trying to be bad) has ever imploded quite so totally as she did last week. She froze and basically didn't dance 2/3 of the routine. Everyone else except Chaz was technically better and Chaz at least made it all the way through the performance without stopping. The only real hope she had once everyone else didn't fall apart was that she'd get pity votes to keep her in, but apparently after the prior week she looked nervous and this last week she just broke down people decided to go for a mercy-kill instead.

Wyliefan
10-17-2011, 04:01 AM
I like Maks even more now, and he brings up a good point about the producers calling the shots and twisting things around. It's like over on American Idol, the judges' controversies always come off as so fake; it's all producer scripted. The only reason I don't mute the sound when the judges are talking on DWTS is I enjoy Tom Bergeron's repartee. Maybe that's scripted too.

Maybe, but whoever writes his script is WAY better than whoever scripts the others!

my little pony
10-17-2011, 09:08 PM
from facebook:

Next Monday, October 24th, Kristin Chenoweth will be performing The Sound Of Music live on Dancing With The Stars! Don't forget to set your DVR. :cool: