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VIETgrlTerifa
10-11-2011, 01:47 PM
Martha is lucky she can count on USA's depth which in part is thanks to our NCAA system that many aspiring gymnasts want to go into for scholarships and to continue their gymnastics career in a healthy, meaningful way.

BTW, I don't get any one who says Jordyn is a robot or leaves them cold. Just because she's American and knows how to hit her routines doesn't make her a cold robot. She showed real personality out on the floor today and obviously has a passion for her sport. She's also usually on beat with the music on her FX, so really robot? I understand Aly being called a robot, but with that tumbling...it's ok for now and she showed that she's a rock. I just hope Aly keeps working on that expression because she was clearly behind Maroney and Wieber in the entertainment department.

Loves_Shizuka
10-11-2011, 01:52 PM
^It's just my opinion re: Wieber. I'm not a fan of her "style" and she doesn't move me in anyway. I'm in no way doubting her (immense) talent, and I do actually quite like her FX.


^^ I wouldn't doubt that - I much prefer the 2004 US Olympic Trials to the actual 2004 Olympics ;)


Amazing to think trials could possibly have all of Wieber, Raisman, ASac, Maroney, Douglas, Johnson, Memmel, Bross, Sloan, Liukin and Ross present in one competition. But only five go. They could send two teams! :lol: WOW

millyskate
10-11-2011, 01:54 PM
Happy the GB redeemed themselves a bit after yesterday's disaster... Beth :cheer:

bek
10-11-2011, 01:59 PM
Even with Mustafina back next year and Komova at her strongest, Grishina, etc I still think the USA will have a much stronger team next year who will score even higher and have much more experience than they did this time. They are going to be extremely tough to beat next year.

The five person team will play far more to Russia's advantage, if Komova gets her Amanar back though. (And really Komova alone). That means the Russians can not only put up

3 girls who can put up world class scores on bars, but they will also have room to take 2 vaulting specialists. They have a young gymnast Sidorova who is fabulous on beam/floor and reportedly now has the Amanar. And Sidorova's vaulting is much better than say Nabieva's.

I'm not sure the Us is going to have 3 6.5 vaults AND 3 bar routines capable of going in the 15.5 + but Russia will.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Alexandrov is holding the Russian bar routines back too.

VIETgrlTerifa
10-11-2011, 02:01 PM
I see your point, but USA won with a five person team. ;)

The problem with the Russians is that they tend to make mistakes when it matters like at Worlds 2007 and Beijing 2008. Even last year's Worlds, they counted three falls on bars but were lucky to be ahead of the pack. However, I don't think they'll be afforded the same luxury in London with China and the U.S. progressing.

BTW, what happened to China's beam? They used to be such beautiful beam workers with great composition. Now, they still have great execution on most things, but they do nothing on beam but walk back and forth counting off elements. I guess with this code, they realize that their past legacy of beautiful beam work was just getting in the way of doing the difficult tricks that win medals.

bek
10-11-2011, 02:32 PM
I see your point, but USA won with a five person team. ;)

The problem with the Russians is that they tend to make mistakes when it matters like at Worlds 2007 and Beijing 2008. Even last year's Worlds, they counted three falls on bars but were lucky to be ahead of the pack. However, I don't think they'll be afforded the same luxury in London with China and the U.S. progressing.

BTW, what happened to China's beam? They used to be such beautiful beam workers with great .

Russia performed far better at this Team Finals then they did last year. They also had their own injury issues Aliya, Paseka (their vault specialist), and then Komova not 100%. Next year they will be able to use Sidorova and Grishina as well. The Us has better depth and so if injuries happen to all it benefits the US. But if the Russians are healthy, and can put in their best gymnasts I think it will be difficult.

This year the US girls were tremendously helped by vault. They had a 2 point cushion on that event. Next year the Russians I think can not only close that gap. Because I think Komova can get hers back (and they will have Paseka,Sidorova etc) But they will be able to add some big bar routines adding a bigger gap. Knowing that you can fall and still win because of your cushion helps take pressure of gymnast.

Mustafina will make the Russian team for bars alone, and I think she'll more than be able to keep up with Liukin. So the question will be, will the US have two girls who can keep up with Grishina, Komova? Because I don't think Bross, Ross, or Wieber can and that IS an issue.

Rob
10-11-2011, 02:33 PM
Did anyone ever figure out if the rule Brian raised was correct - that the alternate can only be used on the events that the injured athlete was listed for? So if Marta already put her roster in w/o Alicia on bars, then Anna could not do bars? It makes little sense, but it would make Marta less of a demon.

VIETgrlTerifa
10-11-2011, 02:46 PM
^ It wasn't true. Martha could have added Anna to the roster and added her to the Preliminary line-ups anytime before the deadline on Friday night (our time). There was plenty of time between Alicia's injury and when the Preliminary line-ups were due.

Bek, we're just going to have to wait and see in London.

Beefcake
10-11-2011, 02:58 PM
:cheer: Congrats to Team USA for an emphatic, dominating win!

And it's a comfort almost to read the Team USA is still unrefined, placeholding rubbish to the majority of you here. Seriously, :lol: even the compliments are back-handed. You'd think the Russian gymnasts and the American girls are different species.

bek
10-11-2011, 03:03 PM
^ It wasn't true. Martha could have added Anna to the roster and added her to the Preliminary line-ups anytime before the deadline on Friday night (our time). There was plenty of time between Alicia's injury and when the Preliminary line-ups were due.

Bek, we're just going to have to wait and see in London.

I actually do have a feeling the US might/or very well win in London. But I don't think this worlds is necessarily a testament to that. I mean not only do traditionally the US win Worlds before the Olympics, but traditionally the only time Soviet teams would lose Worlds (if they lost was Worlds before the Olympics). Not when its more than likely that both teams will be very different next year. I do have a feeling the only person this Russian team that will be in London next year is Komova. Although we will see.

And I really don't see China gaining on Russia at this point, the Chinese are getting more and more inconsistent. I do think though that Yao may gain on the Russian and American AA next year though. She is very consistent and has a very, very good DTY that may be upgradable.

In terms of Us vs Russia, I really think its going to be who closes the gap on their weaker event, that will be the main tale. As well as hitting obviously.

Garden Kitty
10-11-2011, 03:16 PM
Congrats to all the medalists, especially the US women. I remember seeing Wieber outside the Hartford arena at Nats last year looking so dejected with her injury. Nice to see her so happy with a World's Gold just over a year later.

oleada
10-11-2011, 03:24 PM
Congrats to the Americans. I have to look back at all the hysteria over them not qualifying and I have to laugh a little :lol:

I do hope Komova bounces back to win the AA.

Fridge_Break
10-11-2011, 03:30 PM
I hope something's done to make things a bit more exciting. I got my sleep :yawn: while the event was going on, so I just read the PBP here once I got up and ready for the day and it was just boring (the event -- not the posts here :lol: ) knowing that the event was basically wrapped up at the halfway point.

caseyedwards
10-11-2011, 03:35 PM
I hope Komova has a comeback. She won the AA title at the YOG and then when it cam to apparatus finals was a mess because of exhaustion. Still better than the days when Russia was coming in last place!!

Rob
10-11-2011, 03:36 PM
Hoping Komova got the jitters out and there will be a fabulous AA.

Maroney has the only 16 score so far EYS?
http://usagymnastics.zenfolio.com/p78956234/hb70907e#h13cf89fb

Love the pointed feet:
http://usagymnastics.zenfolio.com/p78956234/hb70907e#hb70907e

There are videos of the US girls up on USA gymnastics site.