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Vash01
09-20-2011, 05:40 PM
We had a thread about back to back OGM, and how hard it is to win the gold back to back.

Looking at world championships, it's not easy to win back to back titles even when the competition takes place every year.

Three in a row are very rare. Outside of ice dance, where even 4 in a row (T&D, B&B, G&P)was not too unusual in the 1980s and 90s, there are just a handful of these.

Yagudin (3), R&Z (4), Browning (3), Hamilton (4)- talking of championships in a row (not total, for the skater)

Naturally this back to back (2 in a row) list is longer than the OGM one, but there are some surprises.


Pairs:

G&G- 1986 & 87; 89 & 90 (did it twice, but not 3 in a row)
M&D- 91,92
B&S- 98,99
S&Z- 02, 03
T&M-04,05
V&V-82, 83?

(not sure if S&S won 2 in a row; I think they did)

I hope V&T can join this group.

Men:

Boitano- 87,88
Plushenko-03,04
Lambiel-05,06
Stojko- 94,95
Yagudin- 98,99,00
Hamilton-81,82,83,84

(Patrick Chan is likely to join this elite group- I don't mean to jinx him:))


Ladies:

Michelle- 00,01 (surprising that she did it just once; someone with 5 titles!)
Kristi- 91,92 (those were the only seasons she was at the top)
Katarina-87,88 (did she win 84 & 85 too?)

Did Linda and/or Roslyn win back to back WC?

(Not sure about the 1960s-1970s ladies)


I don't see a dominant singles lady skater right now (Yu na uncertain about next worlds, from what I am reading). May be the next two worlds will bring in a new star.

Ice dance:

Krylova-Ovssianikov: 98,99
Klimova-Ponomarenko: 89,90
Grishchuk-Platov: 94,95,96,97
T&D- 81,82,83,84
B&B- 85,86,87,88
Did N&K win 04 & 05?

Surprising that Anissina-Peizerat and Usova-Zhulin are not on this list. In the last 5 years or so there has been a new ice dance champion every year. No longer we have the 4 in a row type champions, which is good for the sport.

(not sure about those before 1981)

V&M looked like they could win back to back world titles, but so far it has not happened. D&W have an opportunity in 2012.

kwanatic
09-20-2011, 05:55 PM
Michelle did not win back to back world titles in 1998 and 1999. Michelle won gold in 1998, but got silver in 1999 behind Maria Butyrskaya before regaining her title in 2000 and then defending it in 2001 (2000 & 2001 are her back to back titles).

Michelle's the only female to have lost and regained the world title three times...IIRC.

Vash01
09-20-2011, 05:57 PM
Michelle did not win back to back world titles in 1998 and 1999. Michelle won gold in 1998, but got silver in 1999 behind Maria Butyrskaya before regaining her title in 2000 and then defending it in 2001 (2000 & 2001 are her back to back titles).

Michelle's the only female to have lost and regained the world title three times...IIRC.

OOPS! Thanks for the correction. I had meant 00 and 01. I will make correction to the list.

pumba
09-20-2011, 06:26 PM
Irina Rodnina won 4 with Alexei Ulanov and 6 with Alexander Zaitsev :)
Valova/Vasiliev won 3rd one in 88, so that does not count.
Denkova/Staviyskiy won 2006-2007 titles.
Also Lyudmila Pakhomova & Alexander Gorshkov won 5 consecutive titles from '70 to '74, in total they have 6 :)
Belousova/Protopopov won in 65,66,67,68
Kilius/Baumler won '63,'64 Worlds
Natalia Linichuk/Gennadiy Karponosov won '78-'79 titles....
Towler/Ford won 4 titles '66-'69
and Navka/Kostomarov really won it in '04 & '05

That's all I can remember by now :)

Vash01
09-20-2011, 06:40 PM
I forgot to list the great Protopopovs. Sorry about that.

Did Den-Sta win back to back? I remember the 2006 title (I saw it live), but I have no memory of 2007. I think they wore white costumes, but can't remember the dance.

LilJen
09-20-2011, 06:50 PM
Did Den-Sta win back to back? I remember the 2006 title (I saw it live), but I have no memory of 2007. I think they wore white costumes, but can't remember the dance.
I believe so--2006 and 2007.

I bet Sonja Henie won a lot of consecutive titles. . . :shuffle:

jobelle
09-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Did Den-Sta win back to back? I remember the 2006 title (I saw it live), but I have no memory of 2007. I think they wore white costumes, but can't remember the dance.

Yep :) In fact the entire dance podium was identical at worlds for 2006 & 2007.


Which for some reason I thought was kinda significant but I just checked Wikipedia and it isn't really that uncommon in ice dance for there to be multiple years with the exact same podium.

Frau Muller
09-20-2011, 07:35 PM
.....Ladies:

.....Katarina-87,88 (did she win 84 & 85 too?)

Did Linda and/or Roslyn win back to back WC?

(Not sure about the 1960s-1970s ladies)

......

To answer some of your Ladies Qs:

Witt won Worlds in 84, 85, 87, 88 (1 interruption-Thomas in '86)

Fratianne won Worlds in 77 and 79, so no back-to-back; Poetzsch won in the other years, 78 and 80

Sumners won one World title (83), as did Zayak (82) and Biellman (81)

The "flipping" of Ladies World titles between skaters began more or less after Trixie Schuba retired after the 72 Olys and Worlds. That also coincided with the addition of the Short Program and the gradual diminution in value of the Figures, which more or less kept the status-quo "frozen" for years. (The lone title for Canada's P. Burka in 1965 is an oddity for the pre-1973 era.) It was pretty predictable in the 50s and 60s...chmpions usually had to retire before anything changed.

Vash01
09-20-2011, 07:35 PM
I believe so--2006 and 2007.

I bet Sonja Henie won a lot of consecutive titles. . . :shuffle:

Most probably 10

Zemgirl
09-20-2011, 08:17 PM
I believe so--2006 and 2007.

I bet Sonja Henie won a lot of consecutive titles. . . :shuffle:
That's what Wikipedia is for (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Figure_Skating_Championships#Ladies) ;) 10 in a row for Sonja Henie. Karl Schäfer had the most consecutive titles among the men, with 7.

scootie12
09-20-2011, 08:32 PM
Boitano didn't win back-to-back. His were 1986 and 1988.

I think this link was posted before, but here's the entire list for all groups!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_Skating_World_Championships
eta: duh...it was in the post before mine :P

Vash01
09-20-2011, 09:30 PM
Boitano didn't win back-to-back. His were 1986 and 1988.

I think this link was posted before, but here's the entire list for all groups!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_Skating_World_Championships
eta: duh...it was in the post before mine :P


You are correct. I forgot that Orser won the WC in 1987, and was the reigning world champ, going into the 1988 Olympics.

blue_idealist
09-20-2011, 11:02 PM
I forgot to list the great Protopopovs. Sorry about that.

Did Den-Sta win back to back? I remember the 2006 title (I saw it live), but I have no memory of 2007. I think they wore white costumes, but can't remember the dance.

Yeah, that was their Seven Deadly Sins program.

Proustable
09-21-2011, 02:06 AM
S/S won Worlds in 2008 and 2009, so yep.

Stojko in 94 and 95.

luna_skater
09-21-2011, 08:10 AM
Boitano didn't win back-to-back. His were 1986 and 1988.

I think this link was posted before, but here's the entire list for all groups!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_Skating_World_Championships
eta: duh...it was in the post before mine :P


You are correct. I forgot that Orser won the WC in 1987, and was the reigning world champ, going into the 1988 Olympics.

I was about to mention that one. I only remember it because there was the "curse" of being the reigning WC going into an O's for a number of years (4 of those cycles being Canadian-specific curses):

WC 83 - Hamilton
OC 84 - Hamilton

And then...

WC 87 - Orser
OC 88 - Boitano (Orser 2nd)

WC 91 - Browning
OC 92 - Petrenko (Browning off podium)

WC 93 - Browning
OC 94 - Urmanov (Browning off podium)

WC 97 - Stojko
OC 98 - Kulik (Stojko 2nd)

WC 01 - Plushenko
OC 02 - Yagudin (Plush 2nd)

WC 05 - Lambiel
OC 06 - Plushenko (Lambiel 2nd)

WC 09 - Lysacek
OC 10 - Lysacek - First time since 83/84 when the reigning WC (Hamilton) won the OGM.