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PeterG
05-16-2012, 10:37 PM
Frankly, that's where the gay man running the show completely misses the point.

Those gays just spend all their time trying to make the straights look bad.

DarrellH
05-16-2012, 11:13 PM
Those gays just spend all their time trying to make the straights look bad.

All it would take is bad lighting.:D

PRlady
05-16-2012, 11:25 PM
All it would take is bad lighting.

No, guys, no need to get huffy with me. I think almost every woman on this thread has complained at one time or another about how they're handling the female characters. (We were all high school girls once.) The virginity ickiness is omnipresent. The ambiguity about women who want careers first is obvious. And the relationships between the girls -- Rachel/Quinn being the most obvious -- are not handled realistically, most of those conversations would never take place in this universe.

So maybe I'm wrong and all the writers are just dumb about women. Given the attention to the interests of the show-runner though, it's not beyond the realm of possibilty to suggest he doesn't get things he hasn't experienced. Like, d'uh.

Latte
05-17-2012, 12:48 AM
I really don't think all the writers are gay, but, I could be wrong.
In my experience, most gay men are more intuned to what women want and think and act then straight men are, but, thats JMO.
Just to add, did you guys hear Unique say in the dressing room before that show that maybe he would switch schools next year?
Made me think he will be back next year. He has gotten a lot of critical praise for he last performance. I like him, I think he could add a lot ot the show. again, JMO

Sassafras
05-17-2012, 03:32 AM
Just to add, did you guys hear Unique say in the dressing room before that show that maybe he would switch schools next year?
Made me think he will be back next year. He has gotten a lot of critical praise for he last performance. I like him, I think he could add a lot ot the show. again, JMO

I just finished watching the show and picked right up on that.

essence_of_soy
05-17-2012, 06:03 AM
I loved the last two episodes, but one thing drives me nuts.

Whoopi Goldberg is meant to be this nationally - renowned singer, and yet she's costumed like one of the maids out of The Help or Mammy from Gone With The Wind.

manhn
05-17-2012, 06:13 AM
It's hard for me to feel that Rachel as a character is supposedly being hampered by her boy troubles when every word coming out of her mouth is NYADA NYADA NYADA. Tina actually gets a storyline last night and it's about Rachel getting *another* shot at NYADA NYADA NYADA. Tina and Mike have a fight about something other than chicken feet--and it's about Rachel? Tina's big moment on the show is to sing--with Rachel. Oh, yay!

Yeah, Rachel's been totally shafted.

Fergus
05-17-2012, 01:46 PM
I loved the last two episodes, but one thing drives me nuts.

Whoopi Goldberg is meant to be this nationally - renowned singer, and yet she's costumed like one of the maids out of The Help or Mammy from Gone With The Wind.

:rofl: YES!!!

If she's supposed to be a Leontyne Price (http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/P/Leontyne-Price-9446930-1-402.jpg)/Grace Bumbry (http://parterre.com/uploaded_images/grace-bumbry1-704307.jpg)-esque performer, than she should have mega-huge opera diva HELMET HAIR (https://secure.cartkeeper.com/~musicaut/item_images/927.jpg). ;)

Unless they're going for a Jessye Norman (http://www.hmdb.org/Photos/30/Photo30925.jpg) draped-and-swathed in fabric effect.

Either way, Whoopi actually gives good :drama: diva.

And Rachel calling her out on auditioning 4 times for Julliard was risky, but well-played. :)

my little pony
05-17-2012, 03:31 PM
since they will be in NY, too bad they didnt cast someone who could sing as well as her character is supposed to sing

as for clothes, i was thinking she looked like one of the magi

essence_of_soy
05-17-2012, 04:48 PM
since they will be in NY, too bad they didnt cast someone who could sing as well as her character is supposed to sing

as for clothes, i was thinking she looked like one of the magi

Exactly.

Where is Kathleen Battle when we need her?

essence_of_soy
05-17-2012, 04:49 PM
If she's supposed to be a Leontyne Price (http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/P/Leontyne-Price-9446930-1-402.jpg)/Grace Bumbry (http://parterre.com/uploaded_images/grace-bumbry1-704307.jpg)-esque performer, than she should have mega-huge opera diva HELMET HAIR (https://secure.cartkeeper.com/~musicaut/item_images/927.jpg). ;)

Unless they're going for a Jessye Norman (http://www.hmdb.org/Photos/30/Photo30925.jpg) draped-and-swathed in fabric effect.



I want me some big - ass diva hair!

PRlady
05-17-2012, 05:06 PM
OK, this is not name-dropping, really. But Whoopi Goldberg is one of the few celebrities I've had a conversation with, at a fundraiser for an organization I was working for in the late 90s, in a megamansion in Beverly Hills. Conversation went like this, as we were standing on a curb outside the house waiting for cars to pick her up -- a limo for her and a Toyota driven by my colleague for me.

Whoopi: Damn, these shoes hurt. (slips them off.)
PRLady: I am so glad you did that. (takes off her shoes too.)
Whoopi: I guess people would notice if I took off the girdle standing here, huh?
PRLady: Uh, yeah.
Whoopi: Stand in front of me so no-one can see (with a big grin.)
PRLady: Seriously?
Whoopi: Well, I guess not. Son of a bitch.

At that point, in the only autograph ask of my entire life, I begged for her autograph for my then young daughter who adored Sister Act and watched it about 100 times....

In other words, that is a lady who isn't going to dress uncomfortably even in costume!

essence_of_soy
05-17-2012, 05:24 PM
In other words, that is a lady who isn't going to dress uncomfortably even in costume!

I guess even Ryan Murphy can understand that. La Goldberg is a gay icon after all.

Fergus
05-17-2012, 07:16 PM
Where is Kathleen Battle when we need her?

:yikes:

I LOVE Battle, but could only imagine the :drama: bitch-fights between her and Murphy. :watch:

(Battle FTW, btw.......) ;)

Cachoo
05-17-2012, 07:19 PM
No, guys, no need to get huffy with me. I think almost every woman on this thread has complained at one time or another about how they're handling the female characters. (We were all high school girls once.) The virginity ickiness is omnipresent. The ambiguity about women who want careers first is obvious. And the relationships between the girls -- Rachel/Quinn being the most obvious -- are not handled realistically, most of those conversations would never take place in this universe.

So maybe I'm wrong and all the writers are just dumb about women. Given the attention to the interests of the show-runner though, it's not beyond the realm of possibilty to suggest he doesn't get things he hasn't experienced. Like, d'uh.

Re the new series on HBO written by Lena Dunham (Girls): One magazine article I read had a famous male comedy writer pulling her aside and telling her things like the sex scenes are awkward (duh!), one girl is "a ten" but isn't being presented that way and so on. He completely missed the point of what Dunham is trying to do. Though I agree with the problems with Glee I do feel there is more for the women in this show than so many others written by guys whose chief question might be "Is she f***able?" when it comes to the females cast. I'm sorry to sound so crude but that "is she" question came up in another article and I could feel the steam rising.