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Karina1974
09-18-2011, 02:36 PM
Rex, can you tell me more about why you didn't like Pulp Fiction? I get *really* squicked out by intense violence and gore and I hate disturbing scenes that are put in just for shock value.

I'd be curious to read that as well. I bought the DVD after getting the soundtrack (which is kick ASS BTW and get played in the car on a regular basis), but I can't bring myself to watch it for the same reasons you haven't. Would love to know of any gore scenes so I can just fast-forward through them.

Rex
09-18-2011, 04:10 PM
Rex, can you tell me more about why you didn't like Pulp Fiction? You can put in spoilers if you wish. I've never seen it, in fact I've never seen a Quentin Tarantino film (apart from stumbling across Kill Bill on TV, and I couldn't turn it off fast enough) but Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs are constantly being recommended to me. You're probably the first person I've encountered who has expressed dislike for PF :lol: so I'm really interested hear the opinion of someone who doesn't think it's genius.

I wouldn't say I'm a film buff but I do watch loads of films and I'm constantly on the lookout for good movies I haven't seen. I almost always give cult classics a try, especially highly rated ones like Pulp Fiction/Reservoir Dogs, and I feel like my film vocabulary is incomplete without having seen them if that makes sense. But somehow I just can't bring myself to watch (same with A Clockwork Orange). I get *really* squicked out by intense violence and gore and I hate disturbing scenes that are put in just for shock value. The few seconds of Kill Bill I saw involved Uma Thurman stepping on an eyeball :yikes: and I'm not sure I could handle a full out Tarantino film. And yet people keep assuring me I'll love them :shuffle:


I'd be curious to read that as well. I bought the DVD after getting the soundtrack (which is kick ASS BTW and get played in the car on a regular basis), but I can't bring myself to watch it for the same reasons you haven't. Would love to know of any gore scenes so I can just fast-forward through them. I found the film needlessly, pretentiously violent, racist and misanthropic. It's not hip or cool to accidentally shoot someone to elicit laughs, or to cheerfully have one of the white characters, Tarantino himself, spout off the "n" word (and I don't care how many black people he has heard use the word, it DON'T make it right). And the rape of the black gangster by the two racist hillbillies was gross - mainly because of the context he used it in - to elicit shock and laughs - not cool. I almost got up and left, but the people I was with persuaded me to stay. And I don't get why the film got an Oscar for its screenplay either - I must have missed something there too. The whole movie was hard to follow.

I also found Resevoir Dogs and From Dusk Till Dawn unwatchable, although not as offensive as Pulp Fiction. I didn't mind Jackie Brown so much, but it was hardly the masterpiece critics were making out to be.

Now, I've giggled at the scene in The Color Purple where Celie gets crowned by the rock that Harpo throws at her, and at Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, when one the drag queens gets knocked out by a beer can. There have been a couple of films with scenes of unexpected violence and I've elicited nervous laughter. But I think the violence in Pulp Fiction was excessive, like an oversalted dish.

skatesindreams
09-18-2011, 05:26 PM
Rex, my thoughts mirror your own - about all the above.

PeterG
09-18-2011, 07:34 PM
Work continues on cleaning up my DVR. I'm almost done Cup of Russia! :lol: These movies, too (from best to worst):

Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I'm putting this one highest mainly because of Russell Brand. I have not seem him in a lot of things, so I was delighted by his presence in this movie. At times, he is WAY out there, yet he is also understated at times, which makes him so watchable and appealing. The script was quite good, many cliches we see so often were absent. The only negative was how Sarah Marshall suddenly became the villian in the blink of an eye at the end of the movie... :huh:

Outlander (2008) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7paq_cWOsc), starring Jim Caviezel (:swoon:), John Hurt and Ron Perlman. I saw this preview on a DVD a while back and thought, "How come I never heard of this movie??" But I liked the preview and saw that it was airing on the Space Network last night, so was happy to tune in. I give it a thumbs up, but some of the early special effects had me thinking, "uh-oh..." :lol: But later scenes were better. Basically this movie is about some other-worlders crashing on earth in the 700's or so...and bringing something with them...something MEAN!

Rape of Europa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0iL7k_R0LM), 2006 documentary about the theft of art in and around Europe during World War II. Definitely worth watching if you like documentaries or the art world. My only complaint is that at times there seemed to be an implication that some art has more value than human life... :confused:

Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QvozC_uW-g) - Did Cary Grant ever look dreamier? :swoon: Grant was 40 when this movie was released, I had guessed he would have been 30, give or take a few years. Oh right, the movie. :lol: Got off to a great start, but the script dragged as time went on...in spite of the cast working their BUTTS off, giving it everything they had. Don't think I've ever seen a cast working so hard to elevate the material! A mild thumbs up, mainly to ogle Grant (in spite of his over-the-top mugging).

Youngblood (1986) with Rob Lowe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn6wNEv7M2w) - also starring Patrick Swayze, Fionnula Flanagan as a landlady seductress and Keanu Reeves in a bit part (two lines)?? I admit, I only recorded this to ogle a young Rob Lowe (even though he was too pretty for me...for the most part)! The movie is awful, for so many reasons. Especially the costume department, who had Lowe in khaki dress pants instead of tight Levi's for the first half of the movie!!!!! :mad:

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (2008 TV Movie with Dougray Scott and Tom Skerritt). Pretty bad. Quite shocking that this is what they ended up with from a classic novel. Lots of wandering, walking around, searching...I was able to scan through half of this movie and not miss anything. Took about 45 minutes to watch a 90 minute program! 45 minutes I'll never get back! :lol:

Matryeshka
09-19-2011, 01:48 AM
I also hated Pulp Fiction. In fact, I've hated every single one of his movies except for Resevoir Dogs, which I found mildly tolerable. I hated it because it's badly done pretentious crap where supposedly talking about a Big Mac in France is natural speech and shows characterization.

triple_toe
09-19-2011, 02:57 AM
Arsenic and Old Lace :swoon: One of my favourite movies ever! Hilarious, goofy, just fantastic all around. I love it for a bit of light Halloween fare.

Rex
09-19-2011, 02:58 AM
Arsenic and Old Lace :swoon: One of my favourite movies ever! Hilarious, goofy, just fantastic all around. I love it for a bit of light Halloween fare.
I will look at anything with Cary in it just to look at his face....it was a great face.

gingercrush
09-19-2011, 12:17 PM
I don't mind Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs but I found the dialogue to be annoying. Kill Bill 1 was fantastic but Kill Bill 2 suffered from the same problems, the dialogue. I haven't seen his later films, not because I don't want to just haven't gotten round to it.

Jackie Brown though I absolutely love. I'm a huge fan of blaxploitation films anyway and Tarantino perfectly captures the era but updates it to the time. Keeps the grittiness too. Just a lovely film. Some of the dialogue gets a bit too much but it does work in this film.

John 3 17
09-19-2011, 12:20 PM
A local station played "Mr. Lucky" last night... I'd forgotten what a terrific plot it has! I ALWAYS lurve me some Cary Grant (he's my all-time favorite).

-Bridget :)

Wyliefan
09-19-2011, 04:30 PM
Arsenic and Old Lace :swoon: One of my favourite movies ever! Hilarious, goofy, just fantastic all around. I love it for a bit of light Halloween fare.

Wonderful movie. "Just fight. Fight, fight, fight. I don't care." :lol: Cary could do ANYTHING -- comedy, drama, didn't matter. I love versatile actors.


A local station played "Mr. Lucky" last night... I'd forgotten what a terrific plot it has! I ALWAYS lurve me some Cary Grant (he's my all-time favorite).

-Bridget :)

I've got that on tape somewhere -- really need to dig it out and watch it!

Peaches LaTour
09-19-2011, 08:45 PM
Arsenic and Old Lace :swoon: One of my favourite movies ever! Hilarious, goofy, just fantastic all around. I love it for a bit of light Halloween fare.

I love everything about this movie including the fact that I got my name, Peaches LaTour, from this film as "she" is mentioned in one of the scenes.

Grant hated his acting in this film but judging by it's popularity, everyone else thought he did it just right...:D

Allen
09-19-2011, 09:12 PM
I don't mind Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs but I found the dialogue to be annoying. Kill Bill 1 was fantastic but Kill Bill 2 suffered from the same problems, the dialogue. I haven't seen his later films, not because I don't want to just haven't gotten round to it.


I actually wrote my undergraduate honors thesis on Pulp Fiction. I've often wondered if the reason I'm such a Tarantino fan is because Reservoir Dogs came out when I was 13 and I thought I was really getting away with something by watching his films. I was 15 when I saw Pulp Fiction and I've been enamored with the film ever since. I get some of the criticisms of the writing, but I'm definitely in the opposite camp because I just adore his films.

I think my actual favorite of his films has become Death Proof. I find myself watching it a lot and I've taught it in classes quite a few times. The only film of his I haven't taught, actually, is Inglorious Basterds, which I plan to teach next semester. In fact, this is the first semester other than my days of teaching freshman comp that I haven't taught a Tarantino film. By and large, students love his work, but I often wonder if they love it because they think they are supposed to love it?

Grannyfan
09-19-2011, 09:20 PM
A local station played "Mr. Lucky" last night... I'd forgotten what a terrific plot it has! I ALWAYS lurve me some Cary Grant (he's my all-time favorite).

-Bridget :)

Suspicion, one of my favorites, was on yesterday. I too love Cary Grant and think that he, like Mary Poppins, is practically perfect in every way. I think he hit his peak of handsomeness when he was a bit older, though. I like a little gray in his hair.

Fergus
09-19-2011, 09:45 PM
Suspicion, one of my favorites, was on yesterday. I too love Cary Grant and think that he, like Mary Poppins, is practically perfect in every way. I think he hit his peak of handsomeness when he was a bit older, though. I like a little gray in his hair.

Cary Grant :swoon: :D

Seriously though, my Nana used to babysit me and we would always catch whatever old movie was on and I distinctly remember Grant being my first movie star crush. ;) Tall, dark, handsome, stylish, romantic, funny......sigh, Grant was just a dreamboat! :swoon:

Allen
09-19-2011, 09:54 PM
Suspicion, one of my favorites, was on yesterday. I too love Cary Grant and think that he, like Mary Poppins, is practically perfect in every way. I think he hit his peak of handsomeness when he was a bit older, though. I like a little gray in his hair.

I agree, but I have to say that he was awfully hot in She Done Him Wrong (which is my favorite Mae West movie) when he was still pretty young.